Texas, Virginia execute convicted killers »
Posted by: STONERS 1 month, 3 weeks agoA man convicted of murdering his adoptive parents was put to death by lethal injection in Texas on Thursday, the second prisoner executed in the state since the U.S. Supreme Court lifted an unofficial death penalty moratorium in April.
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STONERS1 month, 3 weeks ago
"Carlton Turner's was the first of three executions scheduled for July in Texas, the country's busiest death penalty state. Texas has 14 additional executions slated for this year."
"Turner, 19 at the time, shot both victims several times in the head, stashed their bodies in the garage, took their cash and jewelry, and threw a party for his friends at the house."
WOW!!!
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tkyrchncs1 month, 3 weeks ago
That my state executes its citizens. That it puts ALL on exactly the level of the person it comdemns to death. That my pleas to all our Governors and all our Delegates and Senators, in spite of knowing many of them personally, have fallen on deaf ears. That my state is actually involved in the prison business, importing prisoners and holding them prisoner for other states. That we spend so much money on killing people, and on keeping people in prison who have not committed personal or property crimes, and the crimes so many have committed are not even against Virginians or in Virginia.
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NoSpinDave1 month, 3 weeks ago
"I am so ashamed."
How naive. Typical head in the sand liberal. I guess you think he could be saved and returned to the public because he is really a lost soul who just needs a hug?
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libsRfunny1 month, 3 weeks ago
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Mdiar1 month, 3 weeks ago
Unlike some, I don't consider the death penalty to be cruel or unusual. I do question the political statement it can make, that the state has the authority to take the life of people, but prisons do the same thing... a statement that the state has the power to imprison people. On those grounds I see nothing unusual or cruel in the death penalty. However, the fact is that this penalty cannot be reversed and that mistakes happen. From a cost efficient view point, that it is cheaper to execute someone then house them, its also cheaper to legalize marijuana and decriminalize other drugs. So I think the best solution would be removing the death penalty, legalizing pot and decriminalizing drugs and save the system a whole lot of money while insuring any mistakes can be corrected that may have occurred.
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walden31 month, 3 weeks ago
You make some good points. However I think it is more expensive to sentence someone to death due to the endless appeals that the sentenced individuals receive.
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Mdiar1 month, 3 weeks ago
Yup. Which is another reason to just get rid of it. The only way to make it cheaper is to remove the appeals process, which then removes the chances the possible mistakes can be corrected because the death penalty is irreversible. If total dollars spent due to the appeals is exceeding that which is spent housing a prisoner for 20 years or so, then I see no reason to keep the death penalty. As you state below, my chief concern with it is that mistakes happen.
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mompro1 month, 3 weeks ago
It is more expense.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008/jul/09/dea...
More than one study has been done on it and so it's time to leave money out of the issue for sure.
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obiefrommuskogee1 month, 3 weeks ago
But if we legalize marijuana who is going to feed and populate the privatized prison system? The monster needs feeding. At 30,000$ a head, the ridiculous marijuana laws are going to be around for a long time. Too much profit to be made.
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obiefrommuskogee1 month, 3 weeks ago
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memestryker1 month, 3 weeks ago
I'm more of a hard-liner on this. I don't care if you were high or have a mental problem. If you brutally killed or tortured someone you should never get out out prison.
If the evidence is strong, I'm not opposed to the death penalty, if your state has it.
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walden31 month, 3 weeks ago
I have no problem with this as long as it's only the guilty being put down. With our justice system I'm not so sure that's actually the case though.
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Global_Warmer1 month, 3 weeks ago
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PsychoHosebeast1 month, 3 weeks ago
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mackiemesser1 month, 3 weeks ago
Gov Kaine of Virginia is personally opposed to the death penalty but vowed that as long as the death penaly is legal in Virginia, he would uphold the laws of the state. He imposed a moratorium on the death penalty while the Supreme Court was considering Baze vs Rees (use of lethal injections). He took a lot of heat for imposing that moratorium from conservatives who felt he went back on his word. Gov Kaine lifted the moratorium after the Supreme Court's decision.
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PsychoHosebeast1 month, 3 weeks ago
Pretty straightforward evidence that conservatives don't care about anything except what they want. Were they worried the people on death row might live an extra few weeks, or were they waving their dicks for their constituents so they can all scream I DEMANDED AN END TO THE MORATORIUM ON THE DEATH PENALTY at election time? Meanwhile the governor was doing his job as an elected official, a U.S citizen and a human being. That's the difference between an intelligent individual and a redneck grit.
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joeblowe1 month, 3 weeks ago
Here in Illinois we had a moritorium on executions for some time. 'Course the governor who instituted that moratorium is in prison himself now, so maybe he was just planning ahead...{;>D)= Seriously, it has been PROVEN several times over that the system is flawed. Quite a few have been released after DNA evidence CLEARED them. I've also got no problem with putting a depraved killer or child molester to death, but I do want to make absolutely certain the person is truly guilty FIRST. Maybe after someone is CONVICTED the rule against self-incrimination should be revoked - after all, already found guilty - and drugs or other means could be used to get the perpetrator to give a true and complete confession? I don't really know how reliable that would be either, but at least it might be SOME sort of double-check.
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PsychoHosebeast1 month, 3 weeks ago
That's not a "rule," that's granted by the Constitution... big difference. So what happens when you find the guy guilty and then he gives you absolutely no confession because he didn't do it? Execute him anyway? Or assume that you've just crushed the constitutional rights of an innocent man, give him ten million dollars and a pat on the ass, and cut him loose? Next!
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hefaa11 month, 3 weeks ago
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PainGoddess1 month, 3 weeks ago
It is a good thing that we dont have the systems in most Arab countries and china. these people would have been executed almost immediately after sentencing. Guilty or not.They get to live for many more years even though their victims or not do not get to breathe and enjoy the short life we have. In a lot of other countries the guilty or not are put to death Next!
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joey-evans1 month, 3 weeks ago
"In a lot of other countries the guilty or not are put to death Next!"
Hmmm, so if they do it in other countries, then it alright to do in ours???
I guess we are no better than the countries we are supposed to despise then? I always was told that is what made the USA the best country in the world.....because we were NOT like THOSE other countries. I stand corrected...apparently, we are no better. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
JOEY EVANS
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saneman1 month, 3 weeks ago
For convictions where the evidence is not circumstantial but is 100% real and concrete which even goes beyond the "beyond reasonable standard", executions should not take 10 years but should be performed within days of the convictions.
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nikkibabe1 month, 3 weeks ago
US is killing hundreds of innocents by bombing entire neighborhoods in Iraq and then report, we killed 2 "SUSPECTS".
What a crime against humanity.
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Poulenc1 month, 3 weeks ago
The argument for capital punishment always leaves me puzzled:
it does not bring back a life or lives;
it replicates the act which the state has judged a person guilty of;
it is costly;
it is less punitive than other potential forms of retribution, such as life in prison in solitary confinement;
it does not deter similar crimes;
mistakes are too often made and the innocent executed;
...which leaves us with one rationale only: people want an eye for an eye.
Other countries have moved beyond enshrining this unevolved impulse in law with no harm to any.
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