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How does the story benefit Israel?

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"How does the story benefit Israel? "

Beats the drums of "Israel is in danger" and gets all the "Israel is the victim" people up in arms and ready to invade whatever country BushCo's evanglical buddies say should be next.

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I think it works against Israel by getting Americans to say, 'we're sick and tired of sending our money to that crazy place. maybe if we stopped supporting Israel so openly we'd be safer.'

Which side of the line do you fall on, drum beater or anti-interventionist?

Me? I'd like to see us less involved everywhere but in the USA.

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I believe it helps Israel because McCain will get all the Jewish votes & the Jewish lobby will back him even more.

Which they are going to do even without these supposed pending messages.

I for one believe BL is dead.

I've found the majority of people here are to uninformed to understand how much our government's support of Israel costs us in terms of $'s & even military spending. Our government should be focused on making America a better place for us, not anything else. We should not be supporting Israel, or any other country, for that matter. The focus of our government should be taking care of us and of America, first and foremost.

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You will not find a more solidly Democratic voting block then the Jewish vote, other than the Black vote of course. 75% of American Jews vote Democratic. Of course Reverend Wright has scared off some of the Jewish vote. If Obama is the nominee, as is likely, you will see a lot of Jews voting for McCain or staying home.

What we give out in foreign aid is peanuts though compared to what we spend in Iraq, which is about $2B a week. I think the US gives out about $10B in foreign aid a year. The largest shares are $3B to Israel and $2B to Egypt.

Pretty good website.

http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Debt/U...

We agree that the US has to focus more at home and less abroad. I was surprised to see that we give out less as a % than many other countries.

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I think the majority of the Jewish population in the US will vote for McCain. I also believe the Jewish lobbyists will vote & support McCain. In my viewpoint, McCain would be 4 more yrs of Bush, which we can't afford.

As far as foreign aid is concerned, I'm not to concerned about which country we spend (more) on. That's not the real problem. I'm against spending on any foreign country, period. Unless a real natural disaster happens somewhere in a poverty stricken country whose government has a good human rights record (to ensure the civilians will benefit from the aid) & our government is helping with emergency aid. Maybe they could pay us back with free oranges or at least something.

Other then that, we have our own problems with lack of funding into our infrastructure, public school system, ss system, etc.

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We have been giving less foreign aid as a percentage of GDP than many other countries ever since Reagan. At the same time, the sales of taxpayer-subsidized weapons to foreign countries has grown enormously to provide the kickbacks for our corrupt defense industries.

On the other hand, we provide zionism with many other forms of aid and their cost to the US has grown prohibitive.

Washington Report on Middle East Affairs

Special Report

The Costs to American Taxpayers of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict: $3 Trillion

http://www.wrmea.com/archives/june2003/0306020....

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Here's a chart you can share with those uninformed people, scroll down to CRS-13:

http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/319...

2004's top foreign aid recipients:

Iraq-18.44 billion

Israel-2.62 billion

Egypt-1.87 billion

Afghan-1.77 billion

Lot's of other good info in there as well.

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"Here's a chart you can share with those uninformed people, scroll down to CRS-13:"

You only presented one chart. There are so many conflicting charts and #'s out there, which differ from each other. Also, I wouldn't count Iraq as our government actually invaded the country, killed thousands of innocent Iraqi civlians, destroyed their infrastructure.

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LOL

Was trying to be nice and you respond by negging my comment and being a prick about it.

If you bothered to check the link there's actually multiple charts and detailed explanations....

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I did check the link. I believe the charts are outdated & inaccurate. Bush has spend a lot more in the last 4 yrs.

"Foreign Aid: An Introductory Overview of

U.S. Programs and Policy

Updated April 15, 2004"

But, that's based on my own research. I won't neg you next time I disagree with one of your posts. Hope that makes you feel better. Have a nice afternoon.

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pcknowledge is correct.

Invasion, occupation and war

do not constitute 'Foreign Aid.'

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Bin Laden sure is evil sounding. He must be reading the English versions of the Quran (Pickthal, Shakir, Ali)...NOT the original classical ARABic one. :)

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