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so because the guy wasn't really getting married the next day, it was okay for the cops to whack him?
They NEVER identified themselves as cops. They (the cops) were in the bar drinking all evening.
According to witnesses at the time (apparently their memories have improved as time goes by), the cops were already shooting when the guy tried to ram the UNMARKED police van.
Did those cops REALLY have access to these guys criminal records when they opened fire? Did they even REALLY know who they were shooting at?
The marriage was just part of the "drama" of the innocent black man killed by racist police that were hell bent on killing somebody that night.
They did not have to identify themselves according to the NYS Criminal Procedural Law. Thank God that law was written so cops wouldn't have to die doing their jobs.
Sean Bell was no stranger to the Criminal Justice System. He knew DARN WELL they were cops and he didn't want to go back to jail. Unfortunately for him, he was drunk and tried to use his 3,000 LB car as a deadly weapon.
The cops knew about a conversation about a gun and the when they tried to stop potential violence, Sean and his friends tried to run over the cops. So their criminal records didn't matter.
That said, their criminal records are real. The wedding day is a fake.
"Thank God that law was written so cops wouldn't have to die doing their jobs. "
If someone pulls a gun on you without identifying themselves as a police officer, you should have every right to defend yourself in whatever way you feel necessary. Including running the person over with your car.
Sean was ALREADY trying to run them over. THEN they started shooting.
>>Sean was ALREADY trying to run them over. THEN they started shooting.
From what I heard & saw on the news, they were UNDERCOVER, NEVER identified themselves, & had their weapons drawn.
If someone points a gun at you, what exactly would you do?
Drive away in the opposite direction.
Have you seen where his car was it was in a tight spot he wasn't driving away if even he wanter to!
You're in a parking spot w/only 1 way to go, a man with a gun pointed at you, not reallhy saying anything, and DEFINITELY NOT identifying himself as a cop.
My 1st thought is duck & hit the gas - HARD.
"If someone points a gun at you, what exactly would you do?..."
Exactly what the f%ck I was told to do.
You are a little slow, they weren't told to do anything!
You freeze, j ackass. It's called non-verbal communication.
With as much gun violence around these days, you see a man in regular street clothes pull a gun on you & you freeze? If I'm in my car, no. Unless he id's himself as a cop, he's roadkill.
Yes, however if you have 50 people pointing weapons at you, perhaps you should rethink your next move.
there weren't 50 guns, there were fifty shots fired.
Hell - 50 guns, I'll gun it even harder & just kiss my a$$ goodbye
It's just a shame more people were not carrying guns, then they could have had a real shoot out.
More guns equals solution to everything.
...and if he happens to be wearing a police uniform, not your fault, right?
Incorrect. A man that I used to work with went to jail for running someone over who was trying to rob him at gun point. The fact that he was in his van meant that he could have simply just drove away in the opposite direction. At that point it also becomes a case of he said she said. You say it was self defense because the peson had a gun, but they say they pulled the gun because you tried to run them over. Who looks better there? You, and your two buddies with extensive criminal backgrounds who could have thrown the car in reverse and left, or the three cops who were trying to stop three guys from getting their gun and opening fire in the bar where the fight had started?
they had no gun!!!!
They bsaid they were going to get one. That's all the cops, or anyone else for that matter need to hear.