News – Apart from George McGovern, a plainspoken man who knows something about losing elections, not a single Democrat of national stature publicly urged Hillary Rodham Clinton on Wednesday to end her campaign for the White House. They didn't have to. There was no shortage of other ways to signal, suggest, insinuate or instigate the same thing.
Quietly???? Some of them (Obama supporters) are screaming at the top of their lungs.
SLATE:
"The thought of having a veto-proof Senate run by democrats makes my wallet shudder with fear."
Consider it poetic justice. Payback's a bitch, isn't it?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/ar...
"President Bush issued the first veto of his FIVE-YEAR-OLD administration yesterday, rejecting Congress's bid to lift funding restrictions on human embryonic stem cell research."
Good slate, very good!
Your fear makes me shudder with happiness and glee. I can live with that for the next 8 years of the Obama/Clinton administration and then 8 more years after that of the Clinton/Pelosi administration. As Freddy said to Wilma, yabadabado.
And I would like to acknowledge the incompetence of George W Bush and ol deadeye Dicky for making it a probable possibility.
hd, sure and the 0.7 tax on our GROSS GDP will be going to sub-Africa. Don't worry about housing or health problems, we won't have any money left of the US, and Obama will have achieved "Economic parity".
Klair -
I regret to inform you, in case you haven't noticed like most GOPers, that your hero George W. Bush has managed to accomplish economic greatness for our country that will last long into Obama's administration so it should not be a problem for you or any of the rest of us right. Are you aware how much funding is being shot into the sand in Iraq defending us from all those terrorists that are still able to hide all those weapons of mass destruction that we gave/sold to Saddam during the Iran/Iraq war a couple decade ago or are you, like most Bushites, still in denial about that little gem from Ronnie Reagan's administration.
Make no mistake, the economic stimulus awarded to the military industrial complex should keep the economy going strong, provided you are willing, have the stomach for it and can come up with new and creative ways to kill, mame and mutilate. Ask Dick Cheney he seems to be doing quite well profiting from his war plans.
obama supporters act like this guy is the next Gandhi. This isn't over by a long shot.
Clinton will win the Appalachian primaries by 400,000 votes.
There are as many people in West Va. & Kentucky as there are in Indiana & more Democrats & approximately 1,300,000 voted in Indiana. Clinton will win both those states by 2 to 1. That means 850,000 Clinton to 450,000 Obama. Then even according to your figures 400,000 -87,823 Clinton will have a 310,000 plus lead. In the remaining primaries Oregon slightly for Obama as I see it & Puerta Rico where Clinton wins big & Montana & S.D.
should yield a or - of 10,000 either way. Therefore, Clinton goes into the convention with a 300,000 vote lead or better.
Obama's coalition of blacks, upscale intellectual wannabees & gullible young college types is the exact coalition that McGovern had in 1972, it's a textbook losing coalition!
Aha. So well educated people shouldn't participate in the voting process. Just Bubbas who will fall for any lie so long as you promise them free goodies from Washington.
Might work. It got George W. Bush elected twice. If we haven't learned anything from that fiasco, then one more time around the wall.
Try putting your telescope to the other eye, Horatio!
After 20 years of the vampirism of the Bushes and Clintons a LOT of people are making it clear that they would far prefer some fresh-blood and idealism in politics to the same stale corrupt party hacks.
Please see my offer above to to LibsR!
Like Obama, you roll the good Clinton years and the horrible Bush years together and describe them as one national train wreck. Not exactly a good way to hold the Democratic base. No wonder Obama needs to extol Saint Ronnie and try to attract Republicans.
the good Clinton years ??
You mean the High Tech economy? The age of the cheap home PC and the booming internet dotcom bubble? What did Clinton have to do with that? I think Bill Gates had more to do with it than Bill Clinton.
What is the different between the tax and spend parties(Democrats and Republicans)?
"After 20 years of the vampirism of the Bushes and Clintons a LOT of people are making it clear that they would far prefer some fresh-blood and idealism in politics to the same stale corrupt party hacks."
Which is exactly why John McCain will be elected!
McCain fresh blood??
Sorry tang but vampire always crosses my mind whenever I see his image reproduced.
Can't say that I've taken to smashing a head of garlic every time - yet.
If he became President then that might become an essential daily prophylactic ceremony.
Oh - and please also look at my most generous offer to LibsR above!
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"It's not about this great country and it's not about you the people. A line has been drawn in the sand and it's all about my ego!" Hildabeast
For those of us old enough to remember Dandy Don Meredith, only one song comes to mind:
"Turn out the lights, the party's overrrr..."
And as Abntv mentioned below, the Party will survive. Many more divisive contests than this have struck both parties (remember Reagan vs. Bush and the "voodoo economics" comment Bush made?). And eventually, politics heals all wounds.
Hillary has three goals now:
One is to get her message across, about health care, change in Washington and so on.
Equally important is convincing her backers to continue in the election process in the fall, and send more Democrats to Washington. Having a veto-proof Senate would go a long way towards ensuring meaningful change gets done.
Almost as important is getting enough donations to cover her expenses, though, lending herself $6 mil yesterday makes that a bit tougher.
If she handles the next three weeks well, she could establish a strong place for herself in Barack's admin, if she wants it.
Ohhh she won't go for a spot in his administration, especially since he won't be president ;)
LibsR - I have some gambler friends who make Amarillo Slim look like a chicken-hawk..
Just tell me the odds you want and I'll broker your bet for you.
Any amount between 1 - 100 million US overnight. if you'd like a little more action it could take another 24 hrs. No commission from you to me!
Just to reassure you that your money will be safe: it will be held in escrow by the Gama Bank in Nigeria.
Well at least the Nigerian Bank part was funny. I'd almost forgot as they haven't offered to send me millions lately.
Funny!
LibsR said: "...especially since he won't be president."
Only if Diebold has anything to do with it:
In 2004, seventeen districts in Ohio that historically voted heavily Democratic, with exit polls that overwhelmingly confirmed that, all went for Bush -- and then, lo and behold! All the electronic records for those districts were mysteriously erased (according to the Republican Secretary of State).
Same thing in FLA, where 15 Florida counties gave Bush significantly higher vote totals than he should have received. See:
http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/1742/
Other than Diebold and the documented Republican efforts to stem the influx of new Democratic voters, Obama is poised to win in one of the largest landslides in US Presidential elections.
LibsR, here's a phrase my NewCon buddies have been telling me for seven years: "The border's thataway."
Get used to hearing it.
BTW: As to the documented Repub efforts to stem new Democratic voters:
"A review of the...data reveals that in Ohio, at least 357,000 voters, the overwhelming majority of them Democratic, were prevented from casting ballots or did not have their votes counted in 2004, more than enough to shift the results of an election by 118,601 votes."
"...1 in every 4 Ohio citizens who registered to vote in 2004 showed up at the polls only to discover that they were not listed on the rolls, thanks to GOP efforts to stem the unprecedented flood of Democrats eager to (vote)."
"And that doesn't even take into account the troubling evidence of outright fraud, which indicates that upwards of 80,000 votes for Kerry were counted instead for Bush."
Says Sen. Christopher Dodd, "...In Ohio, you had a secretary of state who was determined to guarantee a Republican outcome."
From http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334...
Strange, I live in one of the most corrupt areas of Ohio and indeed the country and I always work the polls. I've seen irregularities but nothing on the scale you mentioned. Most irregularities I noticed favored the Democrats and these were small in nature. If what you're saying was more than the myth it is, I certainly believe that the Democrats, now in power would have exposed it. Of course the chief law enforcement officer in Ohio, Marc Dann, is having enough of his own problems, having been exposed to having tolerated sexual harassment in the work place. But what a way to redeem himself and stave off pending impeachment to be able to "get the Republicans" for all the alleged corruption you claim to exist.
everything temp talks about is documented in richard phillip hayes new book
"Richard Hayes Phillips worked day and night
for three years compiling irrefutable evidence
of how the Republicans stole the 2004
presidential race in Ohio. This landmark
investigation is a testament to what private
citizens can accomplish when government
officials fail to protect our right to vote
and to count those votes as cast. Every
American â;; Republican and Democrat â;; should
read this book, and join the fight for
democracy's most fundamental right."
-- Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.
There will be no Barack's administration! I've just donated to Hillary's campaign right here: https://contribute.hillaryclinton.com/form.html...
If she's not the nominee, my donations will go to JMC! The rookie senator of Illinois is not ready for that job!
That was supposed to be a neg. Hit the wrong button.
If experience is the best indicator of a great leader, then Cheney is #1 today.
James Buchanan had a wealth of experience. He was called Mr. Washington. He is also widely regarded by historians as the worst president ever, at least until George W. Bush set a totally new bar for that prize.
Buchanan was in the White House as the nation split apart and descended into our country's darkest hour, the Civil War. His "experienced" answer. "What, me worry?"
Buchanan's experience:
Pennsylvania House of Representatives, 1814-16
US House of Representatives, 1821-31
Chairman on the House Committee on the Judiciary
Ambassador to Russia, 1832-34
US Senate, 1834-45
Chairman of the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations
Secretary of State for President Polk, 1845-49
Ambassador to Great Britain, 1853-56
In contrast, he was succeeded in the midst of the bloodiest war in US History by an obscure man who had served in the Illinois legislature and briefly in the US Congress -- experience eerily similar to that of Barack Obama. That man was Abraham Lincoln, a president many historians hold up as one of the best to ever serve in that office.
Take the measure of the man above the years soaking up experience in spin mastering, lying, and Washington insider deals.
Lincoln was the reason the South seceded.Not to say that he was at fault for this.
Uh...the civil war didn't start until AFTER Lincoln was president....
"Republicans opposed the expansion of slavery into territories owned by the United States, and their victory in the presidential election of 1860 resulted in seven Southern states declaring their secession from the Union even before Lincoln took office. The Union rejected secession, regarding it as rebellion." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War
I said Buchanan presided AS the nation split apart and descended into the Civil War. That is accurate.
((In contrast, he was succeeded in the midst of the bloodiest war in US History by an obscure man who had served in the Illinois legislature and briefly in the US Congress -- experience eerily similar to that of Barack Obama))
a direct quote from you. here's a vocabulary and syntax lesson -- "in the midst of" is NOT the same as "AS the ...and descended...
See below. And enough of the ad hominem. The point is not at all about who was President when the Civil War was declared. That was James Buchanan, in fact. But the point is that experience has proved an extremely poor predictor of presidential performance. Character counts. Years in Washington, if anything, may be a negative.
Well, he was already elected but he was not inaugurated yet.
so yes you are correct.I have read that the south seceded
because they knew that Lincoln would try to abolish slavery
once he was in office
It's just scandalous...Ego is so rare in politics. ;-x
It's not ego, it's confidence in the best for the job of fighting for the American people!!!
I strongly believe that Hillary will best JMC in that job. However, JMC will do better than Obamossama.
Even if it were ego, I don't have a problem with it (indeed, I think a certain degree is necessary for the job). As I've said elsewhere, this is a situation in which she is slammed either way. She'll be labeled a quitter or a party pooper--so why not go for the brass ring? I just fine it funny that I haven't heard any such comments about potential spoilers on the Republican side during the primaries. Were Romney, Giuliani, Huckabee, or even Ron Paul accused of being egotistical? I sure don't remember it.
very few want McCain for President....he has dementia and evidently Hillary does too. She's out there right now ducking rocket launchers. Obama should be President as he is the only one who has compassion for the middle class and poor which are become more disenfranchised every day.
I keep looking at Hillary wondering when all that makeup or filters will fall off the camera and we can see the real one.
While Bill was in the Whitehouse she was know to throw all sorts of things at the staff...like ash trays and vases. She has a big temper which is only outdone by her sense of entitlement.