News – Forget the rocket attacks, concrete blast walls and lack of a sewer system. Now try to imagine luxury hotels, a shopping center and even condos in the heart of Baghdad.
Does the resort come after the 100 years of occupation?
This is proof that Iraq might be calming down. Corporations don't invest millions of dollars to build luxury condos, hotels, and sprawling shoppings centers if they know it is going to be blown up within minutes of opening.
Havana, Cuba?
Nothing in Cuba was blown up. We lost it when Castro took over and seized all American property. That is why we had such an interest in Cuba during the Eisenhower and Kennedy years.
Do you remember Cam Ranh Bay? Da Nang? Bien Hoa airport? You have a very tenuous grip on reality.
I'm sorry...I'm afraid your superior grip on reality confused me. What do 3 locations in VIETNAM have to do with HAVANA, CUBA?
You are delusional on this one. This is pure Americanism brought to the Middle East. It isn't democracy we are exporting its the capitalist dream. But it isn't for Iraqi's to reap the profits.
This is a pipe dream just like the rest of the neocons fantasy. They will hole up in their billion dollar Embassy when it is finished and abandon the Green Zone.
And Iraq is far from settled down. Now mostly under local control, not under Maliki's government. THe price we pay for working with local tribal leaders. And for ignoring the South.
Yep, of course I'm delusional. American corporations are going to put BILLIONS of dollars in investment into an area that isn't safe...
*sigh* Where do you people come from anyway? Sometimes, it's just too easy to illustrate how you know nothing about business. This is the reason that almost all success businesses are ran by Conservatives.
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Hello: is this M__. Dijrevelky?
This is Mr. Adam Smith from the Social Security Administration and we are pleased to present you with a unique once in a lifetime offer.
We are prepared to give you $300 thousand dollars worth of shares in a hot IPO. You can become part owner of the new Marriot Luxury Hotel that will be built in the Green Zone in Baghdad Iraq.
All we ask is for you to rescind your eligibility for Social Security and Medicare benefits.
Does this offer interest you?
I misspelled your name, sorry.
No disrepect intended.
too late to edit.
Daily rocket and mortar attacks on a "safe zone" all in a city that can't be put under control, even after 5 years of occupation by the largest military in the world with an open ended mandate to do anything necessary to control it.
Besides the oil, which they ain't giving to ANYONE, is there any good reason why we decided on the failed and expensive occupation that has become an insuklt to the world and especially the american people?
"American corporations are going to put BILLIONS of dollars in investment into an area that isn't safe... "
The point of my post is that this ISN'T going to happen. That it is just further delusional thinking by you neocons. Slack off the Kool-Aid, it will all start coming back to you...once you sober up you will start to realize what a mess Iraq has been and will continue to be...
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Anyone who says this war wasn't about money need only look at this proposal... Luxery hotels? an Amusement park? Condo's? shopping centers? If you add in a few casino's, this sounds like Las Vegas.... Heck, the guy responsible for it is acting like its his land, and his neighborhood even:
"When you have $1 billion hanging out there and 1,000 employees lying around, you kind of want to know who your neighbors are. You want to influence what happens in your neighborhood over time," said Navy Capt. Thomas Karnowski, who led the team that created the development plan.
So many questions ... so few questions.
Maybe you should come out from behind the curtain.
midleft?
is that you?
"Who owns viacom, the chain of right wing radio stations that own Rush Limebaugh?"
Limbaugh owns his own show and syndicates it. No wonder your rants are completely baseless -- You have no idea what you are talking about.
..."Now try to imagine luxury hotels, a shopping center and even condos in the heart of Baghdad...."
Sounds like a money maker to me! Too bad the no bid, cost plus contracts to build all this stuff, at middle class taxpayer expense, will be awarded in secret so poor scmucks like us won't be able to buy stocks in the companies and at least make a few pennies out of this. Or, when the "winners" are announced, the prices will have already spiked out of our reach.
But the real beauty is that most of the stuff will never be built. The billions and billions in "borrowed from the national debt cash" will evaporate like water in that desert. What little that gets built, like what we have now, will see 200-400% cost over-runs, and oh, damn, it just got blown up! Sh!t ! Now we have to rebuild it!
Sure am glad we're helping those poor Iraquis instead of pi$$ing it away on socialist style health care or crap like that.
Yup, war is gooooood for business!
I think you may be mistaken.
Everbody knows that it all boils down to DNA.
"Anyone who says this war wasn't about money need only look at this proposal..."
So, because they want to make the place nicer by adding hotel's, amusement parks and condos, it's all about the money.
Sounds alot like "Americanizing" them...
I guess we should just build them some mud huts instead. No wait, we'd be cruel and inhumane then.
There's just no pleasing some people....
When you attempt to cast everything as extremes, it is indeed hard to please most people.
There might be a middle area between, something decidedly American and mud huts.
Perhaps this will be designed by representatives of the people who will be living and working there and with Iraqi oil money rather than U.S. tax payer dollars.
I wish them success in turning what is currently a disaster into something nice.
as long as MBI International puts up it's won money and pays the US for security services, I don't have too many problems with it.
No there is not a way to please everyone, but the ones who should be pleased in Iraq is the Iraqi's and I doubt this is what they want, invaders turning their country into a tourist destination. Just throwing away more US dollars but that seems to be popular now that they aren't worth as much these days.
"If you add in a few casino's, this sounds like Las Vegas...."
And your problem with that is what? I just moved to Las Vegas. Why? Because it has a stable growth economy and much greater job opportunities than the manufacturing-based Midwest states/economies I just left. That and the long, cold, bitter winter that still continues despite all the "global warming" hype.
Build those hotels! That means JOBS and lots of them for Iraqis. Construction jobs, service jobs, professional jobs. You liberals just never will get it, will you?
No problem with jobs for Iraqis as long as the payroll is being provided either by private investors or by Iraqi oil revenues.
What needs to stop is the Bush-promoted gravy train of U.S. tax payer dollars that has been flowing out of the U.S. and into Iraq for the past five-plus years.
> "If you add in a few casino's, this sounds like Las Vegas...."
And your problem with that is what?
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The problem is Cultural Genocide as a consequence of:-
Cultural Imperialism
Military Imperialism
Economic Imperialism
IMPERIALISM
Function: noun
the policy, practice, or advocacy of extending the power and dominion of a nation especially by direct territorial acquisitions or by gaining indirect control over the political or economic life of other areas; broadly : the extension or imposition of power, authority, or influence
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/imper...
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> "Blowback" is a CIA term first used in March 1954 in a recently declassified report on the 1953 operation to overthrow the government of Mohammed Mossadegh in Iran. It is a metaphor for the unintended consequences of the US government's international activities that have been kept secret from the American people. The CIA's fears that there might ultimately be some blowback from its egregious interference in the affairs of Iran were well founded.
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> The suicidal assassins of September 11, 2001, did not "attack America," as our political leaders and the news media like to maintain; they attacked American foreign policy. Employing the strategy of the weak, they killed innocent bystanders who then became enemies only because they had already become victims. Terrorism by definition strikes at the innocent in order to draw attention to the sins of the invulnerable. The United States deploys such overwhelming military force globally that for its militarized opponents only an "asymmetric strategy," in the jargon of the Pentagon, has any chance of success.
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20011015/johnson
It is primarily military force.
but it is also cultural and economic force
supported by military force.
By definition, it is imperialism.
Just as we have the war against terror
the other side has its own war.
Blowback is the war against imperialism.
Make no mistake. 9/11 was blowback.
This will also create blowback.
LibrsRFunny said "You liberals just never will get it, will you?"
How can we get it?
You tell us over here, that throwing money at a problem doesn't solve it.
You tell us the government should stay out of things like making jobs and building housing and providing health care.
But it is good policy in Iraq?
You are making the whole war up as you go along; and the domestic economy as well.
We get that.