Torture victim's records lost at GuantÃ;¡namo, admits camp general »
Posted by: berkeley 4 months, 2 weeks agoRetired general Michael Dunlavey, who supervised GuantÃ;¡namo for eight months in 2002, tried to locate records on Mohammed al-Qahtani, accused by the US of plotting the 9/11 attacks, but found they had disappeared.
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tkyrchncs4 months, 2 weeks ago
Neither does light, or electrodes carefully used, or suspension/bondage. You are an idiot. A direct, intentional, unflattering observation. No need to call me down for it. I know what I'm writing.
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Tangent0014 months, 2 weeks ago
I see, so there's no such thing a psychological turture.
Let me know when you're ready to give it a try...
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Dionys4 months, 2 weeks ago
"WATER BOARDING CAUSES NO SCARS...LETS NO BLOOD, BREAKS NO BONES--ERGO--NO TORTURE"
You are a moron.
More than half the US Intelligence and counter-Intelligence officers that go through this kind of torture at the hands of their brothers, knowing full well they will come out of it just fine and are being watched at every moment, end up having severe psychological trauma that needs to be treated. And they know it's 'just a simulation' and that their saviours are right at hand.
You are an embarassment to this country.
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raats66624 months, 2 weeks ago
Frankly, I think a REALLY good definition of torture was given by a member of this Administration (AG Mukasey I believe) "if it happened to me, I would consider it torture".
So not only does this Administration send EVERYONES family members (except their own) into fight this illegal war. But they also use tactics on detainees that THEY wouldn't want to be subjected to and I doubt they would want THEIR family member subjected to.
And before you start spouting off about how these tactics are "getting useful information" and "these people are criminal so they don't count". I would like to point out that...1) there is NO evidence that torture has EVER produced useful information and 2) there have been MORE people RELEASED (because they were innocent) then have been CONVICTED up to this point. Which means (in MY book) that there are MORE people being tortured that have done NOTHING wrong, then those being tortured who DID anything related to 9-11 or since!
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Natureboy4 months, 2 weeks ago
Which is why it is alternately referred to even within the US military as "the drowning torture."
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disraeli4 months, 2 weeks ago
Is that why the US convened war crimes trials against the Japanese after WWII charging them with torture, specifically including water boarding. Because water boarding wasn't torture?
Savage and stupid, a very bad combination.
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GHOSTWHOWALKS4 months, 2 weeks ago
Oh pretty please come to Illinois and introduce yourself. I have a few friends that would love to show you the falsehood of your idiotic comment.
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lfergie8124 months, 2 weeks ago
They have already covered their posteriors when they got congress with McCain's blessings to pass the law that made it "legal" and made the law retroactive to the time they started using torture. Any attempt to bring them to justice would be labeled political by the right wing conservatives.
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Justice4All4 months, 2 weeks ago
Oops, maybe they fell into the shredder by accident. I'm sure the 25% that still support Bush would accept that excuse.
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Tangent0014 months, 2 weeks ago
LOL! Yeah, THAT would be a surprise. Sad, sad state of affairs where accountability and transparency are the extreme exception.
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lfergie8124 months, 2 weeks ago
Kind of reminds me of the last days of Enron with their shredding truck.
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BravoSierra4 months, 2 weeks ago
Well, it's such a big place...unprotected borders, anyone can come and go as they like...thousands upon thousands of people pass through with no security, no body searches, no fences and gates, no RFID tags to track their movements...I mean, what do you expect...of course people are going to come in and steal things. And if they can steal them from Guantanamo...well, just think what's happening on our borders...we need those fences now! It's a matter of national security.
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BravoSierra4 months, 2 weeks ago
are you kiddin' me! when did they start letting that happen!?
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Tangent0014 months, 2 weeks ago
Well, if waterboarding is 'not torture', they shouldn't have any problem with it, should they?
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Charlson4 months, 2 weeks ago
This administration will be keeping the shredders busy the last few months in office. They will be destroying any and all evidence that may be used against them.
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nikkibabe4 months, 2 weeks ago
If they shred and destroy evidence, then use their own tactics to get the facts. WATERBOARD the crooks.
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quackpot4 months, 2 weeks ago
No doubt they will be found buried under Rove's missing e-mails. Right next to Nixon's missing 18 minutes of tape.
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Tcaros4 months, 2 weeks ago
We have lawlessness spreading like evil in our government. It's is being authorized from the top and allowed to grow like a fungus.
The first defense is to claim whatever they do is not in violation of our laws since the President is "commander in chief" during a questionable war. Second, if evidence is found it is not investigated by the judicial. Third, the evidence is destroyed and nobody is accountable. Fourth, which is the trump card, the Attorney General simply say's he doesn't want to pursue the charges.
Do we still have a functioning government? Congress should step in on this.
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