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  panzerv4 months, 3 weeks ago

  These kind of stories just reinforce my belief that science either does not really know what is going on, or they aren't being allowed to tell us what's really going on. I mean, what if our whole solar system has changed position in the universe, and that has given rise to events that are completely out of our control. If that were so, why wouldn't they tell us? I mean all this going back and fourth crap. Anyone who was in Michigan this winter knows that there was no global warming there. Is global warming selective? Someone needs to give the world a straight answer.

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    PsychoHosebeast4 months, 3 weeks ago

    Global warming isn't selective, however the deniers tend to think it is. Gee, it was cold in Michigan last winter? And that means there's no global warming?

    Of course the ice caps are shrinking, the ocean is rising and it's temp is going up... but yes, it was cold in Michigan in the winter. Probably always will be.

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    capn_caveman4 months, 3 weeks ago

    Really, you're going to bring up the position of the solar system in the universe? Ok, the Sun orbits the center of the galaxy roughly once in 200,000,000 years. We have seen the rapid effects of man-made global warming in the past 30 years or so. That accounts for approximately 0.000015 percent of an orbit. This is not significant at all. Next, the rest of the universe resides WAY too far away to have an impact on the Earth's climate. In short: There is no connection between Earth's recent climate change and it's position in relation to either our galaxy or the rest of the universe. There is not a shred of evidence for this.

    And as far as the temperature in Michigan, that is called weather. Do not confuse weather with global climate.

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  bill29364 months, 3 weeks ago

  From the article:

  "They've developed a new technique for inferring hurricane activity from global climate data, which doesn't itself contain hurricanes. "

  Translation: We rewrote everything because we were wrong last time.

  "When applied to the past twenty-five years data, it is a startling confirmation of his findings of three years ago; hurricane power has increased by about 50% over the last thirty years."

  Translation: We created a question to fit the answer, and will do the same again when we are shown to be wrong again. So I can get more government money to do studies vice getting a real job.

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  CRYMTYPHON4 months, 3 weeks ago

  A scientist is not a priest or a political pundit.

  It is no shame for them to say 'My old model was wrong, here is a better one'.

  The Foxes assummed he was rejecting the overall hypothosis that CO2 created global warming which causes climate change.

  They were wrong.

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    bill29364 months, 3 weeks ago

    Then the next time say:

    'My 'new' old model was wrong, here is a better one'.

    They seem to be wrong alot.

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      PsychoHosebeast4 months, 3 weeks ago

      And God forbid that anyone should admit a mistake and correct it... that seems to be what's wrong with our government right now.

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        bill29364 months, 3 weeks ago

        But what if their wrong conclusions send everyone down the wrong path? Would you be okay with 'I made a mistake' as an excuse after you drove you car off the cliff? Before one goes out and sacrifices jobs, livelihoods, and tax money; be real certain of their numbers.

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          capn_caveman4 months, 3 weeks ago

          So would you rather wait a few decades until we actually see people lose their jobs, their livelihoods, and see people dying before we do anything at all? At that point, the problem is vastly more difficult and expensive to fit. Global warming models are in constant revision. Because hurricane activity and global warming isn't as strongly correlated as once believed, there still isn't much dispute that the global temperatures are going to rise very significantly in the next century. The temperature rises alone will be destructive to the world economy and to many human beings.

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        capn_caveman4 months, 3 weeks ago

        I wouldn't even go as far as to call the previous model a 'mistake'. The only thing changing here is that the new model is predicting less of an increase in hurricane activity than what you would expect based on extrapolating 30 years of data. But the scientist still says there will be an increase.

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