News – Barack Obama's campaign tonight is demanding a full investigation of reports that his passport files at the State Department were viewed without authorization.
edit: What Tim said :)
Who is they?
...my theory is that "They" is actually a front for ex-intel types who start rumors, then track them to find out how far and fast they spread, and how much the rumors mutate en route...supposedly located on the Kansas City Strip, "THEY" are supposedly apolitical, considering ALL politicians to be nuts...
But of course they are already saying that there was NOT politically motivated EVEN THOUGH the most recent access was on MARCH 14 (so THAT investigation is LESS then a week old)!
more illegal but not criminal behavior from current admin
one more thing to put on new ags list not to investigate
if we dont get paper ballots and open access to recounts before nov,we will have the same thing with next admin
blackboxvoting.org is working to save democracy and u can help http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/1954/7...
If they were contract employees working for an outside company, why would you not include the possibility that they were Clinton supporters?
I'm going to assume that Obama will demand to know who they are. They not only had access to his travels, they have his SS #. Perhaps from there we can know of any links between them & a political party/candidate, or even if their employer has a link. I can't find any mention of who the contractor is that they worked for.
If these contractors were working for Hillary Clinton, the Bush administration would have been tripping over itself to reveal this to the media. What better way to wreck the entire democratic primary!
ADA,
So you actually believe Dem. and Rep. are on different sides?
I am a little tired to teach 1st grade today, but Cheney is Bush's 9th cousin, Obama is Cheney's 2nd cousin, which makes him Bush's 11th cousin. The Bush family is directly related to Queen Elizabeth II, so they all come from Royalty bloodlines.
Ok, so if they are all on the same side, then they must all work for the same people right? That would be correct my friend. Let's see here, who could it be they work for, and who helps them create the illusion that the people are picking our presidents? Hmmm, they would need tons of cash of course, need to be very powerful, and control just about everything we see, hear and read... Hmmm...
http://web.archive.org/web/20030803184924/www.t...
Let me know the time and date you become "aware".
And does anyone know anything about reverse psychology? Articles like these actually make Obama more popular. Likely a lie.
I'm not saying they were "working for Hillary"
What I wonder - are they Clinton supporters who thought they could get info to give to the Clinton campaign
Does it hurt when you try to think?
90% of that post is Bull$hit!
How in the world would you know? Have you ever taken the time to research this? Or do you just believe what others tell you, like the TV? Oh, I guess it's all conspiracy stuff?
Please, you don't even have the first clue what the flag for DC above even stands for. You, just like the rest of your uneducated negative voters who do so, don't give a word of rebuttal, or a thought of what you might think is the truth because you don't know.
I know it's easier for people like you to live in bliss then to take some time out of your busy life and really learn and understand what America has been going through, and honestly I believe most Americans feel the same way.
That's why our country is going straight to a sh!thole, because we don't act like free Americans and stand up for what is right, we do what we're told, don't ask question and accept whatever the gov says, and just hope all that stuff is just theories.
"Try to think"? At least I actually think like an American.
And you point to the Bush Administration,,,, they don't have to do this,,,, you Dems are causing enough problems for BHO,,,,, all the Rs have to do is sit back and watch,,,,, you may want to Ask Monica Lewinski's boyfriend's wife about his one.
This is just what we've come to expect from the republican party.
It's not like this is the first time they have breeched files for election purposes.
Everyone knows that there is no level they won't stoop to.
current admin, oh, you mean the SEN from NY?
This is and always has been the nature of the GOP. The past proves it, the future will confirm it!
This is exactly why I am opposed to warrantless wiretepping!
"I am NOT a crook!" Richard Nixon
I didn't have sexual relations with 'that' woman,,,,, it was all those ones over there,,,,,
"I didn't have sexual relations with 'that' woman"
I didn't say you did!
But you are refering to things other than the political blackballing that goes on constantly among the republicans.
Hell, their all liars, but think about the slimeball methods that the GOP has used since the beginning of time.
That's what I'm refering to when I say:
"This is and always has been the nature of the GOP"
If you expect me to defend Clinton, then you can
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more from MSNBC News
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23736254/
Very informative interviews. Thanks for that link.
Sounds like a Clinton move: In a live interview on CNN's "Late Edition," Gore defended the White House's handling of the files and said a policy will soon be in place to prevent anyone there from having access to FBI materials.
"We are going to make sure new guidelines are further adhered to so something like this never happens again," Gore said from his farm in Carthage, Tennessee.
Gore
"To the limits of my knowledge," the files did not wind up in the White House for political purposes, the vice president said. "I was sure it was some kind of bureaucratic foul-up . . . We still don't know what happened, but the wrong procedures were used."
In a separate interview on CBS' Face The Nation, White House Chief of Staff Leon Panetta said it was "inexcusable" that White House personnel requested background files on people who worked in the Reagan and Bush administrations. But Panetta said there's no evidence that the files were misused.
How can anyone defend this action regardless of how and why it was done. Regardless of who it was done to. We have laws and more important, we should have some form of decency and decorum not only in our government but our citizens as well...where is the outrage from us? This is why our country is going to hell in a hand basket. They were time in my life time and I am not an old man, when Americans would have been outraged at this type of action, today we are nothing more than a bunch of wining crybabies, pointing fingers at our fellow Americans. This is WRONG I don't care who it happens to. The right is always calling the left commies, well if this behavior is not tantamount to communist i don't know what is. We have to stop this as citizens because if we leave this up to our officials they will just give their friends a pass! We are rotting from the inside and it's sad to sit here and watch! We the people need to do something about this, we need to take back our country.
The vote is still ours and we need to unite on that and send a message to the string movers that their run is over!
I don't see anybody defending this. I see two people fired and one disciplined. An investigation underway to determine the reasons why these individuals were looking into the file in the first place. I have seen people pointing the finger at the current administration and like I at the Clinton machine, which seems more likely under the current circumstances. Then again it could be as reported individuals out of curiosity poking around were they had no business. As you are aware the state department employees are rarely changed out from one administration to the next. Yes the leadership figures change but the rank and file are career people with personal favorites be it current, past or future administrations. It is wrong and it makes one wonder who would benefit most from any information gleaned from the information in the application. S0 let's ask ourselves who would benefit most from prying into Obama's past at this point in time?
CAPECORALM:
"Sounds like a Clinton move. I at the Clinton machine, which seems more likely under the current circumstances."
Why would Hillary Clinton breach her own passport file?
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/sto...
"An embarrassed State Department admitted that the passport files of all three presidential candidates -- Sens. John McCain, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton -- have been breached. State Department Secretary Condoleezza Rice called Obama to apologize. She then had to call Clinton to apologize as well. And by noon, the department held a news conference to concede that McCain's personal file had also been improperly accessed."
Besides it was Bush Sr. who has a record of passport breaches.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=...
"John F. W. Rogers denies that he approved the search of Bill Clinton's file."
Why would Hillary Clinton breach her own passport file?
I think the other 2 were added to save face, if all 3 were tampered with they would have said that at first. This happen quite a bit ago they can't tell me that they found out about the other 2 today! This portion of it is a lie to cover up the fact that someone went looking for dirt on Obama more than likely to see if he went to any Muslim country. This is what I meant by taking back our country. Even on this we cant tell what is the truth from fiction! And the attempted cover leads me to think this was a GOP doing!
Cape I am sorry if it seem I was meaning you in my post, it was a general position you just happen to be on top of it...We have had some good fights old friend while I disagree with most of what you post I have said this in the past I have also learned a lot from you. I can never hold an individual responsible for what is happening to our country not even bush...this is a combination of a constant stream of bad politicians in powerful places and their unwillingness to listen to the voice of reasoning, and Carl Rove. My dog in this fight is Obama because at this point he is not part of this.
I have to say both Cape!Both of them would gain from this...I think the GOPers know that Obama will end up winning over clinton...nothing has changed the poles show clinton leading 47% to 43% in PENN with a margin of error of 6% the last time i looked. After all this he is still in the hunt there. The people will not be moved by these type of tatics anymore!
Clinton by the numbers is out. She cannot surpass the delegate lead Obama has amassed and it is highly unlikely that she will surpass the popular vote lead he has. Her only chance is to find some sort of smoking gun.
Well, make up your mind. Is is curiosity, or was it Clinton?
Tell one lie and stick with it!
Well there's a refreshing deflection. Gore instead of Clinton.
haha that's ridiculous
The Bush administration is on the way out along with alot of his neo-conservative cronies.
We should all write our representatives and call for a FULL and UNFETTERED investigation.
cape-
An independent counsel was appointed and there was a full vetting.
Do you support the same in this instance?
You should also refrain from attempting to smear folks with charges that they have been cleared of.
"In the F.B.I. files matter, the independent counsel determined there was no substantial and credible evidence that any senior White House official, or First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton, was involved in seeking confidential Federal Bureau of Investigation background reports of former White House staff from the administrations of President Bush and President Reagan.''
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=...
Tim, darn that should of been a positive, must be time to clip the talons.