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Posted By Aidenag 1 year ago in News- Former Vice President Al Gore and the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change have won the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize for their efforts to spread awareness of man-made climate change, and to lay the foundations for the measures needed to counteract it.
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deathray1 year ago
Congratulations, Mr. Gore!
Helping bring awareness about global climate change, and a call to action on dealing with it, is noble work.
Now we are going to have to contend with increased carbon emissions from the screams of blind, inchoate hatred of the "Right" in this country, who would rather see Rush Limbaugh get the Nobel Peace Prize for no good reason.
Watch it happen, right here...
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Aidenag1 year ago
It's going to happen all over the net. People will be denouncing the Nobel Prize, making 'Goracle" Jokes, and god knows what else for weeks if not months. Anything to distract from the reality of the situation and how much good the man has done.
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deathray1 year ago
One good neg deserves another...
What happened to Rush Limbaugh?
I guess he didn't do anything worthwhile for humanity as a whole.
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deathray1 year ago
What does this have to do with hate?
Oh, I see, this is your disingenuous attempt to show that you don't disparage Al Gore and global climate change every chance you get...and all your sycophants who jump on that bandwagon with you.
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deathray1 year ago
Good morning!
You have a lovely day!
BTW, I'm definitely looking forward to finally seeing that policycentric article you were going to submit...
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capecoralM1 year ago
It is sad to see that the Nobel Peace Prize process has degraded to such an extent. This year 1/2 of the prize has been awarded to Mr. Gore and 1/2 to IPCC on what grounds? This is a Very Sad day for the Nobel.org to award such a distinguished honor on a person who has used lies, falsehood, and exaggerations to promote himself and his company that was established to cash in on the "man made" global warming hoax.
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UnusualSuspect1 year ago
LOL...cape...you're so funny...but if true, according to your requirements, my guess is Shrub, Cheney and most of the others within this current administration will never have a chance of getting the Nobel, either. If lies, falsehoods and exaggerations are the litmus test, then no prize for them! Ha!
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DEMONSLAYAR1 year ago
LOL, now u wouldnt want someone who is working for peace to get a peace prize, would you? maybe mr "freedoms on the march" should get the rpize for all the work he has done in iraq to lower the population. And his great job of keeping kids from getting health insurance. Or maybe the private contractors should get it. Your hatred for humanity never ends. What is really sad is that u probobly beleive the things that u say. Well u and bush can keep doing the devils work and men like al gore will keep doing gods work.and lets see what happens on judgement day :)
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aceofspades11 year ago
Congratulations are well deserved by Mr Gore, however in the past, there were often times the Nobel Peace Prize has not made much difference in future events. Hopefully this time the world community will fully take notice & work in harmony to improve the ecological status of our planet
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hdthehn1 year ago
@capecoralM
Are you on dope or just dopey in general.
Take away Jimmy Carters's peace prize and give it to the great humanitarian George W. Bush. He is such a deep thinker.
More appropriately a wanker.
Here is a web site just for you capecoralM
http://www.alaska.net/~clund/e_djublonskopf/Fla...
it fits your level of intellect
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capecoralM1 year ago
It is interesting to see the self proclaimed intellectuals here inject a series of Bush is that Bush is this Cape you are stupid, when in fact my statement about the Nobel org mentioned nothing of Bush. My post was in response to the FACT that Al Gore Founded a company in 2004 that sells Carbon Offsets and in fact by the Way he purchases his from. I was simply pointing out that the Marketing Campaign Al Gore has been preaching has been debunked even by his Co-Winner the IPCC. Not to mention 1000s of other notable scientists around the world who are not among those that have formed a group think "consensus" that the 1 degree rise in temperature in the past century is "Man-Made". But the attempted deflection from the fact that AL Gore is a fraud by bringing up the War on Islamic Extremist Terrorism fits the mold. And as usual the SOP of those resistant to new discoveries on the matter of earth science and theories other than "man-made" is simply reinforced.
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hdthehn1 year ago
@capecoralM at least Gore's money isn't tainted with the blood of my fellow americans.
Vice President Dick Cheney's stock options in Halliburton rose from $241,498 in 2004 to over $8 million in 2005, an increase of more than 3,000 percent, as Halliburton continues to rake in billions of dollars from no-bid/no-audit government contracts.
http://denver.craigslist.org/rnr/443283474.html
I speak and work along with scientists who do research in the field who have considerably more credibility than you - the word from them is that "We are Fuched"
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capecoralM1 year ago
Interesting Point. When the LOGCAP contract was awarded to Kellogg Brown & Root by Bill Clinton and again won by KBR in open bidding who could have know Halliburton would merge with KBR. I wonder, since Cheney has pledged to give every penny of any profits from his pension to Charity i assume the money helped many people.
SO please share these peoples names and research so that we can all see it. Saying we are fuched is not really enough to go on. Who is the we and how are we fuched?
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hdthehn1 year ago
"Cheney has pledged to give every penny of any profits from his pension to Charity i assume the money helped many people."
How can you assume "the money helped many people" before Cheney has donated it. It sits in a blind trust collecting interest. He could donate it today if thats what he really wanted to do but he chooses not to. Why?
Cheney lies like a rug see the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3hRvj22RWs
I can safely assume Cheney will die long before any donation happens and leave it to his family. This is more his style. Similar in nature to the five deferments that he used to avoid going to Vietnam and serving his country. Yea he's real honorable and would never break his pledge!
The gullibility of some people is unbelievable.
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sinophil491 year ago
Cape - It is sad to see an ignoramus post his ignorance for the world to scorn at. You really must educate yourself. Global warming is an established fact that is occuring this very moment. The uncertainties are about the relevant causes, the rapidity and degree of severity it will reach, the extent of harm it will wreak on our earth, and the remedies to reverse or to just lessen the impact.
For Gore to make a couple million dollars off his work in no way negates the truth and significance of his achievements. Nor does it come to a fraction of what the anti-global warming industries make out of denying GW.
Consider - oil, auto, timber, mining, tires, chemicals, pharmaceuticals, food processing, energy generation, waste disposal, agriculture, defense industries, etc. All stand to make BILLIONS out of denying GW and continuing practices that continue to pollute and add to the environmental damage.
Consider - If global warming is a hoax and human generated CO2 is not the cause, why
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sinophil491 year ago
should we give a damn about the smog and pollution now being generated by China, India, and most of the rising 3rd world countries? Our country still generates far more pollutants than the 2 countries combined; and you feel that GW is a hoax. Therefore, we should leave them alone and not talk them into cleaning up their industries. Let every country generate as much smog and atmospheric toxins they want. OURS did not cause GW, therefore, THEIRS shouldn't either.
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capecoralM1 year ago
I would respectfully suggest two things. The US is not the world's largest polluter. Later in this discussion I have posted the data supporting this contention to your unfounded statements. I am suggesting that historical data suggests that atmospheric C02 has risen in the past without a Man Made influence. It is estimated that ALL human activity has contributed less the 5% to the increase in atmospheric C02. What seems to be happening is that there is not so much of a concern about the rise in temp. but rather an extremist environmental posture has emerged from this unexplained phenomenon. Many as you do make the claim that C02 is a pollutant. Yet C02 is a natural element. And to your last question the question why C02 has risen is still a mystery yet Al Gore established a company in 2004 that sells carbon offsets claiming that man is the cause and that he can sell them a solution. How that equates to peace I am not sure but obviously some feel strongly that it does.
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SpazMat1 year ago
I'm generally on your side on this, but the CO2 is natural argument is distorted: Asbestos is natural. Arsenic is natural. Uranium is natural. It's natural to die when all you blood spills out on the street, or the forest floor, human or animal.
Natural does not mean a lot when we are talking about "good for you".
On the other hand, I'm not so sure that Gore has worked "For the peace and brotherhood of men", so I'm not sure why he is eligible for other than partisan political reasons.
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PaganGodess1 year ago
Hi EE! Nice to see you!
I see maturity and composure are alive and well on the new Propeller! Sure wish some of these people would grow up and I'm talking about a few more than just Will1313. FEH!
Good for Al Gore!
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dunkirk1 year ago
Naw you gotta wait your turn. They've been accused of sticking to he right wing fantasy stories so now they make a grand entrance and start fighting over negging everyone.
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HannibalBarca1 year ago
and all your sycophants who jump on that bandwagon with you.
Am I a sycophant because I believe that ever since Arafat won it, the Peace Prize has lost much of its' luster?, that has nothing to do with Gore.
Also while what Mr. Gore is trying to do about global warming is a positive endevour, I fail to see the relevance to peace.
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deathray1 year ago
Let me ask you a question, Hannibal.
Is there anyone, who, in this year, could have won the prize and reestablished your faith in the Peace Prize?
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HannibalBarca1 year ago
In a world full of violent hotspots, who comes to mind that is trying to cool them down? I can't for the life of me think of any.
And as for Gore, while he does deserve recognition and praise for his efforts the Peace Prize is the wrong award.
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deathray1 year ago
It's a sad thing for humanity if we reach a time nobody believes anyone deserves the Nobel Peace Prize;
I think Mr. Gore will do just fine.
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mesodude1 year ago
"But when people like this, Henry Kissinger, y arafat, win there is no way that the prize is being awarded in the purpose it was designed"
And why was the award created? Do you know? Is it conceivable to you that there are people with moral blemishes in their past who are capable of redeeming themselves or do you think nobody deserves as second chance?
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cushi1 year ago
Depends on how broad or how narrow your perspective on peace is, HB. We certainly can't live in peace if we're at war with our planet! In that sense, Mr. Gore is very much deserving of the peace prize for waving a red flag and expanding awareness of the need to reign in our reckless disregard of the critical needs of mother earth.
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mesodude1 year ago
I try to console myself with the knowledge that the vast majority of those claiming that he doesn't deserve it probably have no clue what the purpose of the award is in the first place.
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DeadXXXManXXXTalkin1 year ago
Gore deserves the Peace Prize just for letting the 2000 election shenanigans 'go' for the 'good' of the country.
an eternally weird piece of video, tho, watching him gavel down people voicing objections to the voter disenfranchisement that helped him lose the presidency
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fourthtunz1 year ago
Our government and our media are controlled by bankers the CFR, the trilateral commission etc, so the bankers own both sides of the argument.
This may be a way for Gore to do something that is somewhat outside the control of the international banking cartel.
He didn't argue the election issue because he was told not to.
Bush was their man. They needed he and Cheney to initiate 911 and the iraq police action.
Anyone who doesn't think that this was all planned, needs to watch less tv.
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Mulder1 year ago
That's am easy question DR. George W. Bush should have won the noble peace prize, not based on what he has done this year but the last 7 years. He has ridden the world of terrorism and brought peace to the middle east! Well hasn't he? :P
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mesodude1 year ago
"I fail to see the relevance to peace."
You're kidding, right? I think most reasonable people would agree that galvanizing the international community to save the planet and encouraging us all to think of fuel alternatives which don't motivate unscrupulous people to launch unnecessary wars sounds pretty peaceful to me. This is also helping to repair some of the damage the Bush administration has done to our standing in the eyes of Americans and the rest of the world.
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nostalgia1 year ago
"most reasonable people would agree that galvanizing the international community to save the planet and encouraging us all to think of fuel alternatives which don't motivate unscrupulous people to launch unnecessary wars"
Unless it causes countries to fight over remainng hydrocarbon fuel
"Tensions around North Pole hydrocarbons raise the specter of new (bitter) Cold War."
There is a wealth of oil and natural gas within the Arctic Circle has not been lost on other countries in the neighborhood. In particular, Denmark maintains that what the Russians call "Lomonosov Ridge" really belongs to Greenland, one of its administrative divisions. The US, Canada, and Norway also have legally founded claims that conflict with Russian pretensions.
OR
Geologist to prospect on Hans Island in Arctic
A Vancouver geologist has received a prospecting permit for Hans Island and has sparked a territorial dispute between Canada and Denmark.
It's not looking very peaceful
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nostalgia1 year ago
Which countries do you think are going to invest in alternative fuels - China, Russia, India, anyone in the Middle East?
China is already drilling ~50 miles off the Florida coast with the blessing of Cuba. If world oil supplies tighten further, do you think China will cut their economic growth and think about alternative fuels? What is going to stop them from moving into the Gulf of Mexico?
Russia already has claimed to about 1.2 million sq kilometers of oceanic shelf as a simple extension of its national territory - territory rich in oil and natural gas. Denmark maintains that this land really belongs to Greenland. The US, Canada, and Norway also have legally founded claims.
Do you expect India to cut economic growth and think of fuel alternatives?
As the older fields in the Middle East fall in production, you don't think some countries might get a little aggressive in looking for new and cheaper sources?
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nostalgia1 year ago
In the UN, why wouldn't China condenm the brutal crackdown by the govt in Myanmar(Burma)? China needs oil and gas from them. In fact both China and India need Myanmar's oil, gas and raw materials for their growing economies.
Alternative fuels cannot be developed in time to prevent unscrupulous people from launching wars over oil
If the world becomes hysterical over global warming and countries believe their economies might suffer, you don't think some of them will try to seize oil rich land in their own self-interest?
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mesodude1 year ago
"Which countries do you think are going to invest in alternative fuels - China, Russia, India, anyone in the Middle East?"
Blah...blah...blah... Why are you and your irritating wingnut buddies boring me and polluting this discussion with your narrow-minded (not to mention, patently biased) drool regarding global warming? I don't freaking CARE how successful or unsuccessful you think Gore's efforts will be, what you predict India, China or Russia will do, or about any of the other methane you squeezed out. Who asked your opinion on any of this?
Neoclowns here who know SQUAT about the Nobel Peace Prize selection process or criteria are befuddled as to why Gore received an award for peace. The essence of what I said in my posts above is that one could argue that Gore's efforts promote peace and that that is why he was probably considered worthy of the NPP. Period.
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nostalgia1 year ago
You addressed this to Capecoral but you could also be talking to yourself
"Your debate skills positively blow me away. I stated a fact which you neither addressed nor disproved. Serious question...Do you honestly believe the meandering schizoid CRAP you wrote qualifies as some sort of intelligent or meaningful rebuttal?!"
As you will note, when you were unable to intelligently address the comments I made, you went on a rant
"Who asked your opinion on any of this?" you demanded
So you are the only one entitled to an opinion?? You have the only opinion with any merit?
Isn't this site supposed to be about opinion and debate?
Perhaps you would be more comfortable on another site where only people with opinions the same as your own gather.
Obviously you are unable to tolerate opinions that differ from yours. How sad!
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mesodude1 year ago
"As you will note, when you were unable to intelligently address the comments I made, you went on a rant"
Oh, I'm sorry...I thought I *did* address your comments intelligently. My problem with *your* response was not that you expressed an opinion different from mine (which you're perfectly entitled to) but that you went off on this long, gaseous, Roseanne Roseannadanna-esque tangent about global warming when all I had said in essence was that I thought Gore's efforts promoted peace and that that is why he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.
And your buddy capecoral does the same thing...Example:
mesodude: So capecoral, which do you like better--chocolate or vanilla?
capecoralIM: Well, I never really gave it much thought...But speaking of choice, why do you gosh darn liberals call innocent life a choice and not a child? And that reminds me... in 1952 Bill Clinton did x or y and it REALLY made me MAD...And another thing...Sandy Berger...Blah blah blah...
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capecoralM1 year ago
"galvanizing the international community to save the planet" OMG You have got to be kidding me! Along with the 1/2 of the Nobel Peace Prize he should have been awarded a bonus super man like costume. But it would be Green and have a great Big GW on the front and a 1-800-Buy-them slogan on the back to promote his CO2 Offset business. He could also wear his medal so that it would shimmer in the sunlight as he saved the world. No masked crusader here either as everyone should have the honor of gazing upon his chiseled mug.
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mesodude1 year ago
"galvanizing the international community to save the planet" OMG You have got to be kidding me!"
Your debate skills positively blow me away, cape (and feel free to interpret that any way you want). I stated a fact which you neither addressed nor disproved. Serious question...Do you honestly believe the meandering schizoid CRAP you wrote qualifies as some sort of intelligent or meaningful rebuttal?!
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capecoralM1 year ago
"You're kidding, right? I think most reasonable people would agree that galvanizing the international community to save the planet and encouraging us all to think of fuel alternatives which don't motivate unscrupulous people to launch unnecessary wars sounds pretty peaceful to me. This is also helping to repair some of the damage the Bush administration has done to our standing in the eyes of Americans and the rest of the world."
What FACTS did you prove. You stated an opinion which was not based on any FACTS. Do you find it unscrupulous that in 2004 Al Gore founded a company to sell Carbon offsets and then went on a crusade claiming global warming was man made? This in the face of mounting research that indicates this may be a natural and unstoppable trend. Trends by the way that have been repeated 100000s of times throughout history without the help of the evil humans. Your complete buy in to the unproven man-made theory indicates you have a closed mind on the matter.
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mesodude1 year ago
"What FACTS did you prove."
--None. I *stated* some facts, though.
"You stated an opinion which was not based on any FACTS."
--You mean the fact that Al Gore galvanized the international community for the goal of preserving the environment isn't a matter of public record? Can you prove that he didn't?
"Do you find it unscrupulous that in 2004 Al Gore founded a company to sell Carbon offsets and then went on a crusade claiming global warming was man made?"
--Why do you ask? Is there some reason I should be more skeptical of Al Gore's motives vis a vis global warming than you are of the corporate lobby's (the same pro-business lobby which empowered and enriched the GOP by exploiting and enslaving migrant workers for the last 20 years)? By the way, before you accuse someone of having a closed mind, take a look in the mirror, baby.
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HannibalBarca1 year ago
Like I said, it is becoming a political tool something it was not established for.
If it was a person I would say it most resembles Colin Powell, a once respected man who is not looked on with favourable eyes anymore but deserves better.
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Teagen1 year ago
You're kidding yourself. If anything he has weakend the US standing by attacking Bush. The rest of the world, for the most part doesn't have the abilities to attack their leaders. When they do, it's a huge thing. In the USA, we have freedoms they don't understand. During a war, it's especially damaging. It gives hope to our enemies. Gore's actions really did harm the US.
On the rest of the world, if global warrming is the danger that he says it is, why isn't he in China and India. They have no clean air standards and eclipse the USA in carbon.
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djn3nunez31 year ago
--During a war, it's especially damaging.
The war in Iraq ended with our complete victory a few weeks after we invaded. Once the decision was made to invade every liberal I know hope for a swift victory with minimal loss of life on both sides. The chicken-hawks policies of the occupation (who btw ignored the advice of the experienced military leaders) that followed our victory created the civil war that broke Iraq into three parts. No one has damaged our country more than those(chicken hawks) in power at the White House.
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djn3nunez31 year ago
Oh the great great war on terror huh? I thought you were talking about a real war. You know one where our military fights their military.
Since Iraq had no WMD to give to any terroist group that has a world wide range of operations, nor as has been admitted by the WhiteHouse, had no connections with 9-11, or any operational ties with the group that pull that attack, how did invading and occupying Iraq effect your GGWOT?
I did not quote anyone that i am aware of.
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mesodude1 year ago
Huh? You're confusing me, Teagen. Is freedom of expression our strength or our weakness? You can't seem to make up your mind. It's good that we have freedoms other countries lack but it's bad to actually exercise those freedoms? In that case, why would other countries be motivated to emulate us (one of the reasons right wingers insist on claiming we invaded Iraq in the first place) if we're no different than they are?
Also, you asked why he isn't "in" China or India. Did you actually read the article?
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Teagen1 year ago
On the free speech, I support that to a fault. However, when you go to other countries attacking our leader you weaken us.
On China and India, they use coal to heat, cook and make electricity. China uses a lot of brown coal in homes. It burns cooler and is very dirty.
On the Kyoto Protocol, it was written specifically targeting American business. On reading the article, what have I missed? The US has EPA laws. What I asked was why Gore is in the EU at times or flying aroung the USA. Go to India or China, try preaching your pollution ideas there. Perhaps it's because both nations would ask him to leave.
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mesodude1 year ago
"On the free speech, I support that to a fault. However, when you go to other countries attacking our leader you weaken us."
--Without parroting memorized right wing talking points, please explain in what demonstrable way it weakens us? Why don't you think disagreeing with the President and demonstrating our so called superior form of democracy strengthens us?
"On reading the article, what have I missed?"
--In my opinion, you've missed an opportunity to demonstrate that you know anything about global warming other than what you've been spoonfed by the right wing media.
"What I asked was why Gore is in the EU at times or flying aroung the USA."
--The same thing Bush does when he wants to privatize social security-- spreading the word. Shouldn't we lead by example?
"Perhaps it's because both nations would ask him to leave."
--which is essentially what you would have us do to Gore as well. So how would that distinguish us as a country.
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dunkirk1 year ago
Teagen waffles back and forth oftentimes within the same post depending on how badly she's losing the argument. The scary thing is at one point she claimed to be an officer in the military and she has problems holding a single train of thought thru one post. I truly fear for the people under her if that is true.
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not2needy1 year ago
Teagen, Not to worry! If Bushie Baby has his way no one will be able to speak at all without his permission. Wake up and smell the coffee!
Are you mad that your little anorexic pundit, Ann Coulter, didn't win the NPP for her exceptionable ability to spread hatred everywhere she goes???????
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dissent1 year ago
Teagan - On the rest of the world, if global warrming is the danger that he says it is, why isn't he in China and India. They have no clean air standards and eclipse the USA in carbon.
China and India eclipse the USA? Not true. We're still the world's #1 polluter.
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capecoralM1 year ago
In 2006 global CO2 emissions from fossil fuel use increased by about 2.6%, which is less than the 3.3% increase in 2005. The 2.6% increase is mainly due to a 4.5% increase in global coal consumption, of which China contributed more than two-third. China's 2006 CO2 emissions surpassed those of the USA by 8%. This includes CO2 emissions from industrial processes (cement production). With this, China tops the list of CO2 emitting countries for the first time.
Source:Netherlands Environmental Assessment Agency
Although CO2 is a natural element many consider it pollution
More than 70 percent of China's waterways and 90 percent of its underground water are contaminated by pollution, according to government reports. 26 percent of this water is "dangerous even to bathe in" according to SEPA. The Chinese regime has promised to cut emissions of major pollutants by 10 percent between 2006 and 2010, but the problem has worsened this year despite such noisy promises.
Source: SEPA
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scott42611 year ago
Oh, really? Proven wrong by the facts?
The truth is that the United States could dramatically reduce its emissions by focusing on renewable and alternative energy.
But I DOUBT you've even sat through "An Inconvenient Truth" or "The 11th Hour" because you have already convinced yourself that these are works of fiction.
Enjoy your Kool-Aid...that is, what's left of it. The punch bowl is running low....
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capecoralM1 year ago
What type of environmental impact would 50 square mile wind farms have on local ecosystems? For example concrete production is often cited as a massive C02 contributer. The turbine constructions requires 1,000 tonnes of concrete to hold them in the ground. They also need a lot of road infrastructure for maintenance. In general, turbines are sited in some of our most naturally beautiful areas. Is it acceptable to destroy a beautiful landscape for environmentalism?
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dunkirk1 year ago
Im beginning to think the right has a never ending supply. Between defending a slur against the troops, sliming a 12 yr old crippled boy, vetoing insurance for poor children, Fox news slandering 4-star generals, starting wars on lies, etc etc etc. Thats one pretty deep punch bowl.
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capecoralM1 year ago
On the contrary to your false assumption I believe that buying Carbon offsets from Al Gore's company is not the solution Al Gore favors. In fact if you read on you will find I am for individual energy independence rather than again Buying Carbon Offsets from Al Gore's company as he does. Furthermore there are not at this time alternative solutions that can be implemented on a global scale. Let's say we shut down the US economy, kill all jobs that require electricity (all of them) and transportation. Would that stop the increase of CO2 in the atmosphere? Again it is estimated that human activity contributes less than 5% to atmospheric CO2. Is this about global warming or is it about something else? Environmental extremism for example. Convenience is one thing necessity is another. Our society is fully integrated into the current energy profile. Should we pay taxes to the UN for our carbon footprint? Or should we invest our money in individual independence? My vote is for the later.
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