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Posted By coreyspring 1 year ago in NewsPolygamist sect leader Warren Jeffs has been found guilty of being an accomplice to rape for using his religious influence to push a 14-year-old girl into a marriage she did not want.
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saneman1 year ago
It has been reported that they are going to charge him. It was an excellent maneuver on the part of the prosecution to proceed with Jeffs first so as not to confuse the issues by having co-defendants where the co-defendants would accuse each other of wrongdoing. It is always best to go after the leader first. Also, this guy testified already in court and has left himself out to hang.
What really gets me is how Jeffs has 10,000 followers. Are people that weakminded or are they simply that stupid. One of the news reporters characterized Jeffs as being like Forrest Gump since he seemed so stupid.
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buggzmum1 year ago
Actually, if you think about it, it was brilliant on the prosecutor's part. Not only have they convicted Jeffs, but that ridiculous husband contradicted himself so many times on the witness stand that his future conviction is almost guaranteed. I work for a court in the district where Jeffs was prosecuted and I can't believe how well the case was handled.
When you play pool, you remove the bracket holding all the balls together in order to scatter them. Well, Jeffs was the bracket, although I still believe he is trying to run things from jail.
People have proven themselves time and time again to be idiots for following another idiot: Hitler's military, David Koresh, the Jonestown massacre (I believe those people willingly drank Kool-Aid?) etc.
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Dicax_Maximus1 year ago
One can only hope that this person has a "really nice" cell mate, you know the sort, 6' 6" tall & wide, doing "life" with no parole, who is really, REALLY desperate.....
Who knows, maybe his God will "help him"......
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hyperbola1 year ago
Actually the most recent research on brain function indicates that this is "hardwired" in "conservatives". "Liberals" have different wirng and deal differently with "uncertainty": they do not feel as threatened, do not require instruction from others, are much more flexible in confronting new situations and do not require imposed ideological schemes to allay their fears.
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vor1 year ago
I get closer to that belief everyday...there appears to be some good that seeps through...professions of caring, relief work, and that sort of thing...but since the foundation that is built on is questionable, can that really be attributed to religion?
I spent several years researching Mormonism. A religion whose roots could not be more falsified. We can see this because Mormonism is of relatively recent birth. Joseph Smith was clearly a fraud yet 12 million humans follow his lead even today. Why? Is it because they cast a blind eye to the truth and cling to their upbringing? Or do they find some comfort in conforming regardless of the validity of what it is they conform?
Christianity would surely fall apart under such an examination. Yet Christians really on the fact that there is little or no evidence to disprove their beliefs more than they rely on evidence to prove what they believe. For proof they turn to faith...which by nature allows the exclusion of reality...
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KMFDM1 year ago
Humanity is it's own root to evil. We just keep giving new names to the justifaction of the stupid $#!t we do.
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not2needy1 year ago
I'm not offended eco, but i think money is the root of all evil, it sure has driven the Bush/Cheney admin to kill off a large portion of Americans.
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Poulenc1 year ago
V.O.R., the issue isn't so much WHAT you believe as that you DO.
The payoff, for those of faith, is that they become part of a larger organism that serves to alleviate fears about what and what not to do; reconciles them to death; provides a sense of order and purpose (or "order" and "purpose")--even adds a dollop of exaltation and transcendence now and again.
The payoff for the organism is self-perpetuation.
The downside--well, we know too well about that. Or do we?
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walden31 year ago
#1 - a 14 year old can consent, but the argument was that he used improper influence to compel her to have sex against her wishes. this seems like a twisting of the law to me. the law would seem to have been put in place to keep older men from improperly forcing a girl to have sex with him. it's like i ask a girl to have sex with my cousin and i get charged. that's nuts.
#2 - so what if people want to have more than one spouse. good luck to them. short of incest other socially repugnant marriages, the govt shouldn't be deciding who can and cannot get married.
#3 - the marriage lasted until she became pregnant from another guy. sick.
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questionseverything1 year ago
the prob is the girl was raised mormon and jeffs had preached at her and others her whole life that she was basically property of her father until her father gives her to a man(husband) and then she is the property of the husband..its incredible to me that this goes on in modern times right here in america
i wouldnt have a prob with peops wanting multiple spouses if both the woman and the men were equal and it was a descion of their own free will but from what i have read and seen reported thats far from the case in mormon communities
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buggzmum1 year ago
Questionseverything,
They do not go by the nickname of Mormon. They belong to the "Fundamentalist" Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, and to the best of my knowledge, do not call themselves "Mormon" because that is considered slang. Their faith is totally separate from ours. Similarities exist, yes, but definitely two different organizations. The kids call their parents "Mother" and "Father", and I can't imagine them taking on a slang name like "Mormon." I live about 50 miles from where they are and have yet to ever hear them called "Mormons."
They are a splinter group that broke off from our church in the late 1800's because they believed that when we disavowed polygamy, that the president of our church had been led astray. These guys don't dress normal, and basically nothing about their life would be considered normal by our standards.
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hamy1 year ago
Why aren't the so called "Christians" out protesting his church every day like they are the Episcopalians or the MCC churches?
No gays in your church, but this guy is free to organize the rape of children without so much as a peep.
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HughMillardHarrison1 year ago
I had a flight layover in Salt Lake and while waiting to catch a flight this Mormon girl was on her way to do missionary work in Spain. She was like a perfect Angel. Long Live Hermanna Stratton and the Mormon movement.The Mormon movement will be a better place without this guy giving it a bad name.
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buggzmum1 year ago
What an awesome thing to say about someone!!
And I agree, especially since everyone seems to think Jeffs is a Mormon, which he isn't. All that old history is like tape stuck on your foot and you can't shake it off.
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hyperbola1 year ago
Well seeing mormon "missionaries" in Spain (I have) is like seeing the Jim Jones sect in America. They normally look desolate and lonely wandering around the streets in little isolated groups of black and white penguins - the spanish have very little time for such sects, especially american ones associated with warmongering and genocides around the world.
Sending mormon missionaries to Spain is primarily for indoctrination of the missionaries rather than anythingelse.
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