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Pakistani MPs today demanded that Britain withdraw the knighthood bestowed on author Salman Rushdie, whose novel The Satanic Verses caused outrage around the world for allegedly insulting Islam. A government-backed resolution condemning the author's knighthood was passed unanimously by the lower house of the Pakistani parliament amid angry protests

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engineer1 year, 2 months ago

Britain did the right thing! Pakistan like other countries do not know toleration. That's the problem with the Middle East, escept for Israel who would rather live in peace. I f the fanatics put down their guns, there would be peace. I f the Israelis put down their guns, there would be a batch of dead Israelis!!
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  BronxBomber1 year, 2 months ago
  
  I couldn't agree with you more engineer.
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    UBCONFUSE1 year, 2 months ago
    
    I agree with both of you, but The Satanic Verses created so much fuel for the fires of hatred, you have to ask the Queen, "What in the name of hell were you thinking?" Do we really need another spectacle of Islamics having conniption fits over a real or perceived insult to Islam? These people are for real in their anger and the West needs to carefully monitor and control their activities within the borders of western countries or better still, deport them.
    Events such as knighting Rushdie will only draw more targets on the backs of innocent British citizens who will bear the brunt of a soft target attack by some Jihaddie idiot.
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      brothers1 year, 2 months ago
      
      It wouldn't make any difference if the Queen knighted him or not. The extremist will still blowup themselves and the people around them even if not knighted. Amazing how they can call others to kill themselves when they themselves wouldn't do it. Let other fools kill themselves for the extremist. What a stupid world we live in.
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      jonmaverick1 year, 2 months ago
      
      I've read 'The Satanic Verses' twice and still haven't identified anything in there, worth putting a million dollar bounty on the guy. If your god gets ticked off or offended by what people say about him, he should take care of it himself.
      
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      koranagirl1 year, 2 months ago
      
      Either you believe in Freedom of Speech and you are willing to defend it at great expense, or you do not and therefore you do not deserve it. What Rushdie did was fine. He never said "kill someone" or "beat them up", he wrote a long and complicated novel about some interesting concepts, none of which are offensive in and of themselves. The only people making a fuss and a fatwah are the extremist, violent thugs of Islam and if you don't have a spine, then take out a loan and buy one for yourself. You'll probably need it someday.
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        karamat1 year, 2 months ago
        
        Interestingly you guys think that the freedom of speech is the right of the west only. And that only the Muslim world should be tolerant. Amazingly it is the so called 1st world countries who jail people for denying Holocaust. I guess you can only excersise your freedom of speach against muslims and no one else is suppose to say a word. So in other words, keep insulting others and they better not say a word yet you insult or protest against what we, the west, do then we shall label you as extremists and warmongers. Thank God I wasnt born in the west and have better values then that.
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        scone1 year, 2 months ago
        
        Freedom of Speech is a western ideal that was written into the First Amendment of the Constitution of the United States and adopted by many democracies worldwide. Most Muslim countries do not embrace this ideal, however. Your lack of knowledge on the subject is only outweighed by your lack of proper grammar and spelling.
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        mdual1 year, 2 months ago
        
        Karamut - "jailed" for "denying" the holocaust? Who was jailed for "speaking" their mind about the holocaust? And when did this happen? It didn't. Only in the muslim world are thoughts of another not tolerated and silenced by death. Only in the muslim world is there rabid intolerance of anyone that doesn't think like they do. Only in the muslim world is a cartoonist or author sentenced to death by decree. You cannot dispute it.
        
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        SpazMat1 year, 2 months ago
        
        That would not be a part of western civilization, that is France.
        Don't paint the whole of western civilization with the hole of western civilization. That would be like saying Israel is Muslum, just because other middle eastern coutries are.
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      Wizardcotx1 year, 2 months ago
      
      Britian should kick every mullah, inman, and ayatollah out of the country and refuse any admittance to any muslim cleric until they receive a complete apology from the pakistani fools... Further they should kick all pakistani politicians and diplomats out of the country.
      The USA should, in support of our British Allies, kick all the moslem preachers out of this country..unless they will publicly disavowe any connection with the idiots of the Allahite religion.
      IT is time the Allah worshipers found out that they are the little dogs in the world dog pile and that their preachers and temples are easy to destroy..
      The Christian Wizard
      
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  Pyramids2Projects1 year, 2 months ago
  
  The only reason I disagree is the fact Salman Rushdie has made obscene claims about Islam, and he gets a knighthood from the British Establishment, Louis Farrakhan made one statement about Hitler and he is banned from traveling to most western countries starting with the UK. The balance does not seem fair to me!
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    beachboy60001 year, 2 months ago
    
    Obscene claims? No he did not! He wrote a fictional book. The plot is twisted, long and boring beyond belief but he did not denounce Islam yet alone make obscene claims. (that being said it was a "Crital" hit.)
    Read here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Satanic_Verses...
    The bottom line is if you dare speak your mind, you could pay with your life.
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      GODIMMAD1 year, 2 months ago
      
      WOW...thats your source...do have a that is more fictionally based?? You do realize that its not a ref. source. What I mean by ref. source, there is only a small amount of fact that is there, mostly opinion based. Im sure that fire doesnt melt steel in there somewhere!
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        autoracer5551 year, 2 months ago
        
        Ok then, tell him to find the source from which the wikipedia article was derived from then.
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        Teech1 year, 2 months ago
        
        More intolerance on a national level, more religious fanaticism.......and here we are over in Iraq actually slaughtering our youth and squandering what's left of our nation's wealth and prestige trying to change it! Insanity!
        But it is making the Bush regime fabulously even richer....and the Neocons love it!
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        mcarpentry1 year, 2 months ago
        
        teech, You are quite the parrot, IT'S ALL BUSH'S FAULT!
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        djn3nunez31 year, 2 months ago
        
        Quite a peach.
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        beachboy60001 year, 2 months ago
        
        I read the FOOKING book a@@hole. Did you? That was the plot I read. Did you read a different one? Was it not sold in the fiction isle? Is it not listed as fiction? This book is no more obscene to the Muslims than the Last Temptation of Christ was to Christians.
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        Teech1 year, 2 months ago
        
        Reply from U.K to Pakistan.....and in the immortal words of Dick Cheney...........
        "Go foook yourself!"
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        djn3nunez31 year, 2 months ago
        
        That's funny.
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        karamat1 year, 2 months ago
        
        Woow woow.. so whats wrong with the last tempation of Christ. I though the jews didnt like it cause it showed how they treated Jesus and that the christians welcomed it with open arms. I personally know of churches who bought the entire shows for their attendies. And if you read the Satanic Versus then please read it again without a bias and put your self in the shoes of a muslim, but I guess you cant cause those are some big shoes to fill.
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        mdual1 year, 2 months ago
        
        Kamut - You got your movies mixed up. And Jews may not have liked parts of the movie "The Passion of the Christ" but they did not issue fatwas against Christians or the script writer or the director etc... get it? see the difference? Probably not - that's the problem.
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      Daylight1 year, 2 months ago
      
      . beachboy6000
      Obscene claims? No he did not! He wrote a fictional book.
      Your claim is like you see but see not and hear but hear not, if that book is not obscene what is it? Don't tell us that, it is the master piece of modern literature. Why the West not coming forward to debate Islam and Christianity, Islam and Judaism, Islam and Communism, Islam and democracy or any other isms in a decent and acceptable manner, because like the Hitler, the Christian world is paranoid and want to create problems in the Muslim world and show the Muslims as violent creed. This game you been playing for the last 1500 years. The western world, which professes to be civilized and democratic, has written 60.000 books against Islam for the period of 150 Year, still going nonstop. If he is a good writer, he wouldn't be responsible in people getting killed in the name of rubbish and worthless piece of crap. Rushdie is another beach boy like you.
      
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        Gungnir1 year, 2 months ago
        
        It is Rushdie's right to write whatever he wants. It is yours to ignore it if you desire.
        If someone decides to kill over what he wrote, they are to blame, not him. Those who don't take responsibility for your own actions are doomed to a life of failure.
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        Waterkeeper1 year, 2 months ago
        
        "Those who don't take responsibility for your own actions are doomed to a life of failure."
        Just about sums up the future of the Middle East. They blame everybody else but themselves for their problems.
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        Jaydee401 year, 2 months ago
        
        And the US doesn't fit into that group it's self? Decades of intrusive foreign policy makes the world hate you and it's all their fault, come on now.
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        beachboy60001 year, 2 months ago
        
        You kill people who write comics. You claim its uncivilized to write books against Islam? Why is that? Is writing books against Chistianity uncivilized? How about Scientology?
        By the way....is teaching hatred against Jews in the Muslim nations civilized? You continue to defend the position that anyone who you deem to "insult" your religion deserves death.
        What a loving and beautiful God you must have.
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        ThePromisedOne1 year, 2 months ago
        
        What about the Jews that teach hate against Muslims? Have you gone to Israel, I have, and there literature if full of racists dogma. "God" gave them the land therefore they can kill ANYONE for it that includes the Christian Palestinians. They have racist's statements in their literature even before Israel was established for centuries. The Jews believe Jesus and his mother are "boiling in hot semen" in the depths of hell. Read the Old Testament and you'll see how they are. This is a double standard.
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        ryan6011 year, 2 months ago
        
        " The Jews believe Jesus and his mother are "boiling in hot semen" in the depths of hell. "
        Well, that's obviously not true since the Jewish faith does not have any concept of hell.
        What you are describing is probably literature made by some of the Jewish fundamentalist who happen to live in some parts of Israel. And that only goes to show that are radical nutjob fundamentalists in every religion, Muslim, Christian, and yes even Jewish. And I say this as a Jew myself.
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        karamat1 year, 2 months ago
        
        Absolutely its uncivilized to insult others. Jews, Muslims,Hindus etc. etc. And by the way, you will also not find a book that will insult Judaism. Not that none were written but none were published !
        "You continue to defend the position that anyone who you deem to "insult" your religion deserves death." Well not death. But its not nice to keep poking people with a stick and accpect them to not say a word. No matter how big of a Gandhi follower you are, eventually you will slap the person poking you with a stick. The theory of turn the other cheek only apply once. Once you been slaped on both the cheeks you will hit back. And no one should blame you for it!
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        liberals_belong_in_mental_institutions1 year, 2 months ago
        
        daylight,
        OK Mr. literary genius. WHAT is so obscene about what Rushdie wrote in 'The Satanic Verses'? AND BE SPECIFIC. I want you to tell us all in geat detail what the big fuss was/is all about.
        If you can do that little task, perhaps some of us more open minded types might give you audience. I'm willing to hear your case (if you really HAVE one).
        So will you give us a STRAIGHT answer or are you going to give us some BS answer that avoids answering the question like every other practicioner of "the religion of PEACE" likes to do?
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        liberals_belong_in_mental_institutions1 year, 2 months ago
        
        Some of us are self-taught students of history. We read dozens of books at the public library to get the whole picture.
        For example:
        * The first crusade was by the muslims against Jews and Christians/catholics.
        * The second crusade was by the catholics in response to the first crusade of the muslims.
        What is going on now is nothing more than the second crusade of the muslims against the west and you and I both know it.
        It just depends on whether or not you're big enough of a man to admit it.
        If the muslims were running America I would never have gotton that fabulous education in history because they would burn down all the public libraries here, just like they burned down the greatest library the world has ever known. The library at Alexandria Egypt. They burned it down because it had more than ONE book 'the qu'ran' in it.
        We can see how big on education islam is.
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        liberals_belong_in_mental_institutions1 year, 2 months ago
        
        OTHER THAN: burning/destroying, cutting/smiting, killing/murdering, conquesting/conquering, raping/pillaging, treating children and women as property/cattle to use/abuse anytime/anyway they decide to, and showing zero tolerence for anyone who does not believe like muslims do, nor tolerence for anything that does not submit to islamic domination
        CAN YOU NAME ONE THING ISLAM HAS GIVEN THE WORLD IN 1200 YEARS?
        So, go ahead and give me a straight answer BIG MAN. I'm ALL ears.
        You don't have a hair on you @ss if you don't step up to the plate and answer me.
        BTW, every syllable I typed is the God's honest TRUTH, period.
        Do you still think what Rushdie wrote was so bad?
        After all what HE wrote was FICTION about islam.
        What I said about islam is the undisputed TRUTH!
        Just so you know, in the part of the country I live in WE ALL HAVE GUNS AND WE KNOW HOW TO USE THEM.
        And we don't hide behind WOMEN and send our children out to blow themselves up either. We stand and fight. We are not cowards!
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        liberals_belong_in_mental_institutions1 year, 2 months ago
        
        And while we're on the subject:
        I will debate Christianity and islam with you anytime.
        I understand more than corrupted English translations of The Bible.
        I am well fairly versed in the idioms and metaphors of the time in which "H KAINH DIA(TH)HKH" (The New Testament) was written,("TH" being as close to 'theta' as I can get on an English keyboard).
        I understand the three genders: male, female, and neuter; the five declensions: nomitive, accusative, datative, genitive and occasionally vocative; the four tenses: past, present, future, and aorist; and how shading and nuance of meaning affect speech.
        So start the debate and expect unexpected answers. I won't just tell you WHAT I believe, but WHY (and it won't be "'cause that's what the preacher says").
        Who knows, we might even be able to educate each other.
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        Justice4All1 year, 2 months ago
        
        You are just more proof that there are nut cases in every religion.
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        SpazMat1 year, 2 months ago
        
        If you read past his yelling and being mad, he does have some good points (and a couple misses)
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        karamat1 year, 2 months ago
        
        How about Algebra (named after a muslim mathmatician Al-Jaber), or Astronomy, or Medicine, the current number system you use and they are a dozen more. I mean come on man !!! Seems like you are a learned person and you your self claim to have read many books. Ever read a book from the other prospective. Heck, forget reading a book, go to google and research and see what Muslims have contributed to society. Iraq was once the center of knowledge. Unfortunately muslims have forgotten their values that is why I have to remind so called learnered people like your self what we have contributed.
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        SpazMat1 year, 2 months ago
        
        "CAN YOU NAME ONE THING ISLAM HAS GIVEN THE WORLD IN 1200 YEARS?"
        The concept of zero.
        The idea of algorithms.
        The west would not be were we are without them.
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      saintetienne1 year, 2 months ago
      
      beachboy,
      "if you dare speak your mind, you could pay with your life"
      Don't I know it! I risk my life every day just voicing an opinion on Nutscape. The fanatics on this site are BRUTAL!
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      DeadXXXManXXXTalkin1 year, 2 months ago
      
      years ago when the fuss started, I found a copy in the library and read a little...I agree. Not only is it merely fiction, but allegorical in nature and I didn't care for what I read.
      Muslims need to mellow the f*** out.
      respect yourselves and quit worrying about what others do or think or their respect for you. That goes for everybody, not just friends of Allah.
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    SlapALib1 year, 2 months ago
    
    I did read a quip from someone that said something like, "If Rushie had said about Christianity what he said about Islam, then Christians would want him dead too."
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      spikecwc1 year, 2 months ago
      
      LOL, right, we all know he would have had his head cut off by all those radical Christians.
      Isn't it strange how tunnel viewed many people's thoughts are?
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      Daylight1 year, 2 months ago
      
      SlapALib
      I did read a quip from someone that said something like, "If Rushie had said about Christianity what he said about Islam, then Christians would want him dead too."
      He actually insulted white women, according to him, white women are good only for F*king and discarding them. Yeah, it a beautiful piece of literature for those who believe that they are nuts.
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        Jaydee401 year, 2 months ago
        
        "Yeah, it a beautiful piece of literature for those who believe that they are nuts."
        The same can be said for the Bible or the Koran, but at least the Bible tries to teach people they are responsible for what they do, unlike the Koran. When a girl gets gang raped by a group of young Muslims a prominent religious leader put the blame on the girl and said females are there to temp men into sin and are evil. How can anyone defend such a religion?
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        koranagirl1 year, 2 months ago
        
        Hey, the OT also teaches stoning for wearing two cloths at once (ie, linen and cotton), and you can sell your daughter into slavery and you can have more than one wife. Wasn't Abraham just a big creep for having his good wife Sara and his skank Haggar? Where's the morality in that. Obviously you have never studied the book of Judges. So stop this about how the Bible teaches "good morality". It's a collection of stories without proper comment and review, and that's that.
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        Jaydee401 year, 2 months ago
        
        OK, you have sold my on getting rid of all religious books as they are all hypocritical.
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        SpazMat1 year, 2 months ago
        
        The OT never condoned polygomy (unles you have the LDS version). It recorded what happened, and when people made mistakes, it showed them, and the results.
        Abraham's disbelief of of God's gift to Sara led him to Haggar (given by Sara), which led to Ishmael.
        Ishmael is the father of the Arabs.
        So the mistake of Abraham is the cause of the whole Jewish-Christian versus Muslum problem.
        So that is where the morality is: sleep around and cause all kinds of grief.
        I'm not sure where God was going in the OT with the treatment of women. I hope to find out some day.
        I know where He went with it in the NT:
        The first to know of the resurection of Christ were women.
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        liberals_belong_in_mental_institutions1 year, 2 months ago
        
        SO WHAT?
        In America it is not against the law to insult someone.
        In America it is open season on insulting anyone you choose to, be they women, cripples, muslims, muslim women cripples...:)
        In fact in America we sometimes PAY people to insult us AND everyone else at their leisure. They're called comedians.
        That's the old "4-F" mentality; you know: Find 'em, Fool 'em, F*ck 'em, Forget 'em. That's nothing new by any means.
        Although it says plenty about one's character (or the lack thereof), being a chauvanistic pig isn't against the law in America either. Nor is it against the law to lack character.
        And I personally have never read 'The Satanic Verses' nor am I planning on reading it. I have no interest in reading FICTION. I just want to know what was the big deal about it to muslims. 'Cause if it is half as stupid as rioting and killing people over a CARTOON STRIP....
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        liberals_belong_in_mental_institutions1 year, 2 months ago
        
        >He actually insulted white women<
        In America it is not against the law to insult someone.
        In America it is open season on insulting anyone you choose to, be they women, cripples, muslims, muslim women cripples...:)
        In fact in America we sometimes PAY people to insult us AND everyone else at their leisure. They're called comedians.
        >according to him, white women are good only for F*king and discarding them<
        That's the old "4-F" mentality; you know: Find 'em, Fool 'em, F*ck 'em, Forget 'em. That's not new by any means.
        Although it says plenty about one's character (or the lack thereof), being a chauvanistic pig isn't against the law in America either. Nor is it against the law to lack character.
        And I personally have never read 'The Satanic Verses' nor am I planning on reading it. I have no interest in reading FICTION. I just want to know what was the big deal about it to muslims. 'Cause if it is half as stupid as rioting and killing people over a CARTOON STRIP...
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        karamat1 year, 2 months ago
        
        "In America it is open season on insulting anyone you choose to" Well yes, except the Jews. You say a word against them and all hell will break loose. Interesting how poeple have such narrow vision!!!
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        SpazMat1 year, 2 months ago
        
        Not so much. I work with an Israeli Jew. I give him a grief, he gives me grief. On the other hand, neither one of us is particularly serious about it.
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      madmaxine1 year, 2 months ago
      
      When Andres Serrano put a crucifix in a glass filled with urine took a picture of it , and called it art I don't remember hearing about any calls to murder him. We were mad at him for sure. But he never had to go into hiding. When a picture of the Virgin Mary was smeared with Elephant dung, more protest but no death calls. The book the Da Vinci Code was extemely insulting to real Christians who have studied the so called "facts" behind Dan Brown's Book but AGAIN we did not try to kill he we banded together to teach uneducated Christians the truth.
      None of those people had to go into hiding but Rushdie did.
      What does this tell you about Islam?
      
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        ThePromisedOne1 year, 2 months ago
        
        MADMAXINE "What does this tell you about Islam?"
        That we don't tolerate blasphemy. Religion is a sensitive issue. All religions should be respected. You claim Muslims get upset when there faith is attacked, yet you see NO Muslims making images of crosses and burning them. Making cartoons of Jesus on cross or some sort of insulting image with an ignorant comment on the image. Making comments or insulting books about ST. PAUL or cartoons. When non-Muslims make these things about Muslims yes they will respond in this manner, we respect our faith if someone is filling "urine" in a glass with a cross on it and you just get "mad" or "upset" and that's were it ends, that's your business. Perhaps you should read the bible and learn what God said about blasphemies and how they should be handled.
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        ThePromisedOne1 year, 2 months ago
        
        I think Pakistan is out of line for the demand as the UK can honor and dishonor who they will. But the UK also full and well knows that this would cause uproar in the Muslim world at such a sensitive time in history. If the Muslims honor Dan Brown (which they never would) or ppl like him the Christian world would be upset too. And you would hear fiery sermons in churches against Islam like i always hear when I do visit churches with my friends. We all need to sit down and understand each other truly this would help the tension. Respect is hard earned. All of us can be sensible.
        
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        djn3nunez31 year, 2 months ago
        
        yet you see NO Muslims making images of crosses and burning them.
        Killing people for thoughts and ideas, or little drawn cartoons that you don't like is barbaric. But I guess if you believe that super natural creature speaks to humans through some book (that was written by men), I suppose you can be convinced of anything, look at the Christian Right.....
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        DeadXXXManXXXTalkin1 year, 2 months ago
        
        ''yet you see NO Muslims making images of crosses and burning them''
        yet some muslims burn buildings over cartoons. I'd rather they burned a cross then a building.
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        DeadXXXManXXXTalkin1 year, 2 months ago
        
        also, blasphemy is just another opinion.
        If you hold only God as sacred, and don't worship images or statues or religious texts or any other created thing, then blasphemy is not possible, and even if it was possible, it would be between the blasphemer and God, not a bunch of offended interlopers who should mind their beeswax and let God deal with it
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        kedirian1 year, 2 months ago
        
        I'd like to think Humanity was much more Human before the invention of Religion!
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        koranagirl1 year, 2 months ago
        
        Maybe "good muslims" don't do that, but WE have South Park, and Jesus has appeared on that irreverent, degrading show than on any other show, and we appreciate the humor. All religions should be respected, but humor and fantasy should too. If you know your US history, you would know that the preservation of Freedom of Speech, irony, making fun of royalty, dispensing with roaylty, was a HUGE factor in founding our country. I know many, many good Muslims and they do have a sense of humor and they laugh at my Christian jokes (and we have plenty), so don't be so supercilious about "religion". "Religion" is crap created by people, it has nothing to do with Mother God, Father God and the otherside.
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        karamat1 year, 2 months ago
        
        Well, first of all please stop teaching the muslim world your so called values. If they respect their religious icons then I dont see a problem in that. It may be a westerner who can abuse his partents on their face and mock their Prophets/Gods but thank God we muslims didnt adobt those 'values'. I mean it has come down to this that abuse and disgrace Jesus all you want, but you say a word against the prez you shall face our wrath.
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        madmaxine1 year, 2 months ago
        
        I am considered in many Christian circles a fanatic. I promise you I hate blasphemy just as much as you do.
        When you kill someone in the name of your religion you create martyrs, and this causes people to run away from the killers and toward the belief system of the martyrs.
        The few converts you gain this way will leave Islam the moment they feel safe.
        Christians are told to obey the law, and to love our enemies, and we are part of the New Covenant therefore we don't go around killing who pose no danger to us.
        We want people to love God. And I would not want to be part of any faith that demanded that I kill someone for a work of fiction.
        By the way did you know that if it wasn't for the death threats that Muslims made very few people would have ever read the Satanic Verses? Everyone I have ever talked to that read the book said the only reason they read the book is it hit the news. And that Rushdie was a horrible author.
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        koranagirl1 year, 2 months ago
        
        yes, but even if you consider yourself a "christian fanatic", does that mean you don't have a sense of humor, appreciate irony and satire, even in religion, even in religious leaders? after all, religion was created by people.
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        madmaxine1 year, 2 months ago
        
        I do have a sense of humor about some of the jokes
        heck allot so called "Christians" are jokes nowdays.
        But if anyone could convince the that the proofs of Christianity were false, But I have been investigating Christianity for most of my adult life and the evidences haven't let me down yet.
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      phleghem011 year, 2 months ago
      
      When was the last time Christians or Jews issued a fatwa to kill someone who offended them?
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        karamat1 year, 2 months ago
        
        So not to kill any one, but Jailing people for speaking against them or allignating people from society is all cool. Nice. I guess we should also adobt the slow and cruel methods.
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  SultanME1 year, 2 months ago
  
  The Right thing ? Ok what exactly was he Knighted for ? He has contributed absolutely nothing to literature what so ever and is an exceptionally untalented writer. He was knighted because he attacked Islam a decade or more ago and nothing else. Do people deserve knighhood for attacking Islam now ?
  Had he attacked Judiasm or even dared to suggest that only 5 million not 6 million jews died he would have been jailed but because he attacked Islam he gets knighted.
  Now try telling us that there is no war on Islam while keeping a straight face. You might also want to preach Western Deomcracy to us while your at it.
  
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    koranagirl1 year, 2 months ago
    
    His books weren't that bad, and so what if they weren't your cup of tea, many people obviously liked them, and they sold well, and that's what matters in the end. I really like the part about Aiesha being surrounded by butterflies. Where else can you read about that?
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      karamat1 year, 2 months ago
      
      ok, given. His book wasnt bad. But as SultanME said what the heck did he contribute to the society. If knight hood has been reduced to this that every tom, dick and harry is getting it then so be it. I am just amazed that all the 1st world is so bent on supporting him for this knight hood that they dont see that this act is an insult to over 1.2 billion people around the world. And then you expect others to be tolerant! How about being sensitive and respecting other? I guess those values are not taught in the west.
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    SpazMat1 year, 2 months ago
    
    I agree with the part about him not deserving being a Sir. It was a pretty stupid move, that had to create strife.
    But only because people are making strife about it.
    Is he a Muslum? (I don't know, either way) Does HE think he is a Muslum? Was he writing it because it was interesting to him, or was he thinking that he would go off an insult Allah?
    If he had written a piece of fiction in which it was claimed, in a dream, that only 25 Jews were killed, or none, the end result, even in France, would have been bad book reviews.
    If he had written it as history, in france there would have been an issue, but I think that is the only country with an issue.
    Does Germany have laws against denial?
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Tolchock1 year, 2 months ago

Pakistan's behavior towards Rushdie and the UK reminds me of China's behavior towards all states which support or welcome the Dalai Lama... definitely some parallel there.
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engineer1 year, 2 months ago

It wouldn't matter whether Israel was Jewish, Christian, Buddhist, etc. or different Muslim sect, there would be a war to eliminate it!!
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PsychoHosebeast1 year, 2 months ago

It seems they've lowered the bar for knighthood, actually--either that or they're using this guy as a political hockey puck.
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  nateweb1 year, 2 months ago
  
  Is everyone forgetting that Elton John is knighted? The bar for knighthood has been pretty low for a long time.
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    spikecwc1 year, 2 months ago
    
    And being gay is against the Quran, so where is the outcry from the Islamics on that?
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      ThePromisedOne1 year, 2 months ago
      
      Spike
      I think you've lost the point here. Mr. Rushdie made comments about Islam, which he himself knows were wrong as he was once a Muslim, he knew what he was doing, and he didn't care. If a gay man gets "Knighted" that has nothing to do with Islam. Mr. Elton John has made no ignorant comments against Islam that I know of. It is also banned in both Old and New testaments. So the verdict by the "Islamics": We don't care about gay people being knighted.
      
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    beachboy60001 year, 2 months ago
    
    The Elton John comment is the best one on here!
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  Daylight1 year, 2 months ago
  
  PsychoHosebeast
  It seems they've lowered the bar for knighthood, actually--either that or they're using this guy as a political hockey puck.
  You are not clear here, who they the Muslim world or Western world. I take it as western world.
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tehranchik1 year, 2 months ago

Rubab---your comment is exactly why they should leave Rushdie alone.
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  spikecwc1 year, 2 months ago
  
  Rubab is good at talking in circles.
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    Pyramids2Projects1 year, 2 months ago
    
    A lot of Muslims are quite devote, not the same as "once a Sunday" Christians, there religion can be a is a way of life for some. When it is threatened they seek to defend it. (ok some use it as a front for there own ends). He knew he was playing with fire on penning that book. On the other side of the coin a there are people in jail in Germany and Switzerland for "Holocaust Denial" , All I'm doing here is drawing parallels, If I were Muslim I would be quite perturbed at Britain's acts. Would they give a knighthood to Ernst ZÃ¼ndel????
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      eviln3d1 year, 2 months ago
      
      It shouldn't bother Pakistan at all... the UK didn't force Pakistan to give him any honor they did it in the UK. If that's the mentality of Pakistan then I think the world should denouce pakistans treatment of women and non-muslims.
      Makes as much sense now doesn't it.
      How care what a country does in its own ground, as long as it isn't doing anything to pakistan so what.
      Just a another reason the "peaceful religion of islam" is bullsh#t and the "prophet (may he rot in hell)" makes a mockery of every true religion in the world.
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        nateweb1 year, 2 months ago
        
        Here here! It's just another excuse for Islam's brainless fanatics to get all stirred up, crowd the streets, burn some dolls, and wonder why they're so poor and yet have so much time to sling their hatred.
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        Daylight1 year, 2 months ago
        
        nateweb
        You are living in wonder Land.
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        djn3nunez31 year, 2 months ago
        
        Nate is living in a wonderful land, free, (mostly) from the religionist.
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        SpazMat1 year, 2 months ago
        
        Except maybe the atheists.
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        saintetienne1 year, 2 months ago
        
        nateweb,
        You've hit the nail on the head. Great post.
        If the Arab world spent a quarter of their hatred energy on doing things for themselves and advancing their countries, their people would be educated, well-fed, industrious, cooperative and respectable.
        Instead, they are fanatical, poor, lazy, belligerant and despicable. And WE'RE the ones that have to deal with them.
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        Daylight1 year, 2 months ago
        
        eviln3d
        Just a another reason the "peaceful religion of islam" is bullsh#t and the "prophet (may he rot in hell)" makes a mockery of every true religion in the world.
        Hey, every religion can be true, logically it is flawed, Islam is the only true religion, all the other religions are man made. Actually speaking you and your forefathers go to hell for distorting the religions of prophets. Moses, Jesus, Muhammad, and all the prophets followed Islam, Islam the only religion that was given to those prophets. (Religion Islam means total submission to the will of God)
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        eviln3d1 year, 2 months ago
        
        Good lord you don't even know anything about "your" religion of islam... Islam isn't that old... it start when 700 AD and by a pedophile... Sorry but Islam is as much as religion as NAMBLA.
        If I am wrong and Islam is the true religion may I be struck dead before I press the submit key and post this message... If I hit the submit key we'll all know Islam is a sham.
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