Got feedback on the new design? We're Listening! Send us Feedback

Iraq Makes Slow Progress On Meeting U.S. Targets »

Posted by: TimALoftis 1 year, 2 months ago

9.3

Scale of 1 to 10

Read: 45

Propped: 130

Comments: 90

Click Prop It to Raise Score

Prop it

"Slow as a turtle" was how one Iraqi lawmaker on Tuesday described Iraq's faltering progress in meeting political benchmarks set by Washington to encourage national reconciliation and end sectarian violence.

Read Full Story at reuters.com

Join the Discussion

+ Add Comment

Comments So Far: 90

100%
time4change1 year, 2 months ago

Why should they hurry ?? Bush will send more $$$ and more $$$ to buy them....and they'll take long vacations (just like Bush) rather than make progress in meeting the benchmarks.........Maliki and the current govt are puppets....they will never be perceived as anything else....incompetent....Bring our troops home now !!
Reply
50%
Neophile1 year, 2 months ago

Iraq's parliament just passed a resolution that could end the U.S. occupation by the end of the year:
http://www.alternet.org/story/53230/
This is just after a majority of their lawmakers signed a resolution that demands that all foreign troops withdraw:
http://www.alternet.org/story/51624/
They're asking the U.S. to leave.
Reply
23 Replies
- 0%
  Neophile1 year, 2 months ago
  
  This comes just a couple weeks after Bush said:
  "We are there at the invitation of the Iraqi government. This is a sovereign nation. Twelve million people went to the polls to approve a constitution. It's their government's choice. If they were to say, leave, we would leave."
  http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/05...
  Despite them having asked several times in the past:
  http://www.aolelectionsblog.com/2007/05/24/if-i...
  And now there are rumblings of a permanent U.S. presence, which would be against the wishes of Iraqi government (a.k.a. a permanent occupation):
  http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0612/p01s01-woiq....
  Reply
  10 Replies
  - 0%
    ryan6011 year, 2 months ago
    
    Good articles, Neophile. Thanks for the links.
    From the CSM article:
    "That reasoning assumes that a long-term US presence will aid in Iraq's stability and development â;; something not everyone agrees can be assumed.
    "We are going to have to be in Iraq for a number of years still, but to talk in terms of a number of decades is not helpful," says Brookings' O'Hanlon. "Despite our best efforts, we have been part of the reason for the turmoil in Iraq. We should not presuppose that our long-term presence will be beneficial." "
    I think that just about sums it up right there.
    Reply
  - 75%
    ABANOCLA1 year, 2 months ago
    
    Another article on here stated that Hillary Clinton said some troops would be in Iraq till the end of her second term as president, 10 yrs. Like that is going to happen, her second term or a 1st for that matter. The troops may be a different story tho. I hope they come home when the time is right, whenever that is.
    Reply
    2 Replies
    - 0%
      thegemacogroup1 year, 2 months ago
      
      We don't need the hil ( mrs clinton ) in at all, she will as good for the USA as she did for mr clinton which is not a thing.
      Reply
    - 0%
      gamahuche1 year, 2 months ago
      
      "I hope they come home when the time is right, whenever that is."
      Like six months ago perhaps??
      It must be extremely galling for those whose nearest and dearest are serving in Iraq to read stories like these and its hardly surprising that the mainstream media are unwilling to air them.
      But the genie's out of the box in the form of alternative web-based news sources..
      Reply
  - 100%
    Candida1 year, 2 months ago
    
    "This is a sovereign nation. ... It's their government's choice. If they were to say, leave, we would leave."
    I guess we'll find out soon how sovereign Iraq is.
    Reply
    4 Replies
    - 0%
      injest1 year, 2 months ago
      
      Saturday, May 12, 2007 AP
      WASHINGTON â;; Worried Congress' support for Iraq is deteriorating rapidly, Baghdad dispatched senior officials to Capitol Hill this week to warn members one-on-one that pulling out U.S. troops would have disastrous consequences.
      
      Reply
      3 Replies
      - lovermanComment removed: User banned.2 Replies
        
        39%
        deathray1 year, 2 months ago
        
        They sent the Iraqi National Security Advisor, Muwafaq al-Rubaie.
        This individual was all over Capitol Hill, the State Department and on every talk show exhorting Americans to "gove the Iraqis a little more time."
        Reply
        1 Reply
        
        100%
        deathray1 year, 2 months ago
        
        that's give, not gove.
        Reply
  - 76%
    jaern1 year, 2 months ago
    
    How long will it take for him to say, "We're staying because they don't know what they're asking or doing."?
    They don't want to leave with their twisted perception that if they leave now it will be 'egg on their face'. Remember, they value their own appearance over the the lives of thousands of US troops.
    
    Reply
- 0%
  foksipayne1 year, 2 months ago
  
  But everyone always says"they want us there"
  Guess those ppl were wrong after all.
  Reply
  10 Replies
  - 0%
    saintetienne1 year, 2 months ago
    
    Have you been to Iraq and have you spoken to the people there, foksipain-in-the-as*, or do you just know everything? Oh, I get it. You watch CNN, log on to Nutscape, and now you have all the answers.
    Well, I've been to Iraq and I've been to Pakistan. Most of the civilians I spoke to in both countries admire Americans and the United States, and in the case of Iraq, are grateful for our intervention of Saddam's government and for our continued presence in the region. Most people, believe it or not, are NOT hateful, fanatic Muslims. Like anyone else, they just want to have a chance to raise their families in peace, and aspire to some of the same things that we have come to take for granted in this country.
    Having experienced that region of the world and the people in them, it only makes me more grateful to be an American, to be safe, and to be free. You don't even begin to understand how good we have it until you spend time in other places.
    Reply
    9 Replies
    - 0%
      foksipayne1 year, 2 months ago
      
      Maybe they admire us for putting up with the idiots of our gov't. We shouldn't HAVE to put up with them, this IS a free country.Isn't it?
      Reply
      3 Replies
      - 0%
        saintetienne1 year, 2 months ago
        
        Yuk it up, foksipain, but your comments continue to be ill-informed, immature and, frankly, irrelevant.
        
        Reply
        2 Replies
        
        0%
        DeadXXXManXXXTalkin1 year, 2 months ago
        
        you really don't have a cordial bone in your body, do you?
        if you ever post something polite and impersonal, you may have the pleasure of a) making me spill hot coffee on myself b) making my hormel dinner go down the wrong pipe, or even c) making me fall out of my chair
        something to shoot for...
        Reply
        1 Reply
        
        100%
        gamahuche1 year, 2 months ago
        
        Dream on DM!
        If he achieved a) and b) he'd get a much bigger rush than your c).
        My diagnosis is he's a dry alcoholic.
        Reply
    - 100%
      thegemacogroup1 year, 2 months ago
      
      Thank you, Well said, acouple of my family members is over there and they have said the same thing, most of the people are grateful we are there, and most of the service people, wish the news media would tell the truth about this war.
      Reply
      1 Reply
      - lovermanComment removed: User banned.
    - 88%
      Candida1 year, 2 months ago
      
      saintetienne,
      Suppose a foreign nation occupied the US and someone from that country asked you what you thought about the occupation. Would you tell that person that you hated their guts and risk beings shipped off to Abu Graib or Guanatnamo?
      By the way, do you speak their language, and did you walk freely in their midst to get a good sampling of their opinions? Can you assume that they trusted you?
      Reply
    - 0%
      gamahuche1 year, 2 months ago
      
      If you are as rude in real life as you are to people in cyberspace then they probably just told you any old bs to make you shut up and go away.
      But since you're here perhaps you'd be willing to share with us
      a] in what capacity you were in Iraq
      b] whether you speak fluent Arabic or dealt with people through an interpreter
      c] What part of
      "Like anyone else, they just want to have a chance to raise their families in peace, and aspire to some of the same things that we have come to take for granted in this country"
      the US presence is currently successfully fulfilling and what would be incompatible with a US commitment to leave as soon as possible.
      For starters..
      If your answers to those questions are significantly interesting and rendered with a modicum of courtesy then I dare say myself and plenty of others would like to hear from you in more detail.
      Reply
    - 100%
      fishifanb1 year, 2 months ago
      
      What's with all the name calling? It makes you sound as if you are four years old.
      Reply
- 0%
  injest1 year, 2 months ago
  
  Neophile
  More than half of the members of Iraq's parliament rejected for the first time on Tuesday the continuing occupation of their country. The U.S. media ignored the story
  ;On Tuesday, without note in the U.S. media, ; That would be CNN, CBS, ABC, FOX, MSNBC, NBC, NYT, WaPo but why not on international news sources like
  BBC, AP, UPI, REUTERS ?
  In the Internet age no legitimate news story could be blocked by ;US media;
  This story has the markings of pure propaganda. Do the Netscape anchors give the slightest effort to verify a story as true or even plausible? Before posting it?
  I noticed that this sight is hawking T-shirts with the names of 3,155 fallen U.S. troops, without PERMISSION from the families. Pure exploitation for profit nothing more.
  Sorry but this sight and sources are highly suspect . It garners ;O; (Zero) respect, as does anyone who would reference it.
  So sad,
  
  Reply
100%
dandt16121 year, 2 months ago

So if the new Iraqi government is wanting us to leave. Then why is bush keeping us over there? Hmmmm Could it be OIL? Just a thought.
Reply
22 Replies
- 100%
  saintetienne1 year, 2 months ago
  
  Oh dandt, please..... don't be so sanctimonious.
  Do YOU use oil, and oil-based products? Of course you do. And even if you don't (highly doubtful), you certainly rely on businesses and services that do.
  In order to satiate YOUR appetite for oil and oil-based products, the United States needs to protect its interests in the Middle East. And a large part of that protection means stabilizing and maintaining a presence in Iraq, since their volatile and incompetent leadership over the last 30 years can't seem to do it on their own.
  If we pull our troops and our interests out now, you can wave goodbye to $3.31 per gallon of gas, and say hello to $10.67 per gallon of gas. And that coffee slurpee in the plastic cup you like to suck out of will triple in price, too.
  Don't like it? Use the subway or take a bus to work.
  Can't do it? Don't want to do it? Then keep your mouth shut and be grateful you even have a choice.
  Reply
  21 Replies
  - 0%
    RedSoxGirl1 year, 2 months ago
    
    I absolutely agree with you saintetienne.
    It amazes me how so many complain about the United States oil interests in the world and do not realize that it is a important commodity that we must protect.
    The United Stated has asked nothing from the common citizen to sacrifice in this war and you still have a society bent on complaining.
    I would be willing to bet that if those gas prices did reach 10.67 per gallon those same people complaining now would be screaming for our government to do something about it. In fact, I know they would.
    We have become a society that truly understands no forms of personal sacrifice and are completely obsessed with oneself.
    If gas prices do skyrocket, my only hope is that it would teach some of these blind people out there a valuable lesson. You don't appreciate something until it is gone.
    Reply
    17 Replies
    - 0%
      Neophile1 year, 2 months ago
      
      Dependence on foreign resources is a problem that leaves many industrialized countries with a weakness. Even Bush called U.S. dependence on foreign oil an "addiction".
      If that problem is ignored, then you can bet the U.S. will continue to fight aggressively for control of resource-rich parts of the world.
      Reply
      14 Replies
      - 100%
        saintetienne1 year, 2 months ago
        
        Well thank you Neophile, for enlightening us all.
        Now that you've identified the problem and griped about it like any garden-variety Liberal, what are YOU doing, neophile? Have you stopped drinking water from plastic bottles? Do you rideshare, take the bus or the subway?
        And before you gripe some more, and go off about how evil our government is, just know that as a middle-class American, you are in the upper 15% of the world population in terms of prosperity, human rights, comfort, technology, medical care and life expectancy.
        Now, given that perspective, let 'er rip. What other nuggets of knowledge would you like to share with us, and what complaints would you like to expound on today?
        Reply
        12 Replies
        
        100%
        joeblowe1 year, 2 months ago
        
        I'll throw in a complaint, if you don't object: Even the current President, who is killing off American soldiers for the sake of foreign oil (accepting that argument for the moment) keeps saying we need to get OFF the foreign oil. I think pretty much everyone agrees with this. My complaint is: Why isn't the damn government helping us to DO it? Why aren't we building nuclear power plants? Why aren't we funding BATTERY research? Why aren't we doing better with developing fuel cells? We seem to be able to spend BILLIONS of dollars to protect access to the foreign oil we all agree we should be getting OFF of, why not put those billions into nuclear power plants and other research and/or infrastructure so we CAN get off the foreign oil?
        Reply
        9 Replies
        
        43%
        saintetienne1 year, 2 months ago
        
        It all starts with you, JoeBlowe. If YOU stop using oil, and millions of other Americans who feel the same way you do make an effort to get out of their cars, stop using plastics, etc., oil companies would look to new technologies OVERNIGHT.
        In a market-based economy (which we're LUCKY to have, I might add), the product that sells the most is king. The bad news is sometimes that product is no good for us, like oil. The good news is, as consumers, we wield purchasing power, and can enact changes simply by not buying a product. The bad news again is that most consumers are unwilling to make any personal sacrifice (though they do like to whine, complain and blame everyone else).
        It is NOT the government's job to force anyone or any business to "do" something or not. They are there to uphold laws in a market economy, nothing more. Businesses, the market and the consumer decide what will be created, bought and consumed.
        I urge YOU to do something about it.
        Reply
        8 Replies
        
        0%
        Neophile1 year, 2 months ago
        
        It is also not the government's job to use the military to secure access to resources for the market-based economy.
        As you said: they are there to uphold laws in a market economy, nothing more.
        Reply
        7 Replies
        
        0%
        saintetienne1 year, 2 months ago
        
        Oh Boo hoo, neophony. Cry me a river. When a commodity such as oil, which DRIVES every other business on the planet, falls into the hands of hostile forces who refuse to cooperate, continue to break treaty after treaty after treaty, and play a dangerous game with what is essentially the world's welfare, you BET it's time for the military to go in and make every effort to secure our interests.
        What exactly IS your problem anyway, that all you can do is complain and blame, blame and complain? What's the matter, has the tire on your trailer home gone flat, causing your floor to slant to one side? That would account for your cockeyed view on everything.
        
        Reply
        6 Replies
        
        0%
        Shirtless1 year, 2 months ago
        
        If President Bush would state, clearly and forthrightly, that our purpose is to safeguard the oil supply, and take effective and visible action calculated to do that, I would support him. But no, he gives us twaddle about bringing "freedom and democracy" to the Iraqi people and proclaims Islam to be a "peaceful" religion. Since you obviously know what our objective ought to be (and I am serious), it is too bad that it cannot be communicated to President Bush, and even worse that he does not have the courage to proclaim it.
        Reply
        2 Replies
        
        0%
        saintetienne1 year, 2 months ago
        
        B.S., shi*less, you would NOT support him, our government or our military for a MINUTE.
        Of course we're over there to secure and protect our oil interests, but part of that process does mean regime change, and introducing democracy, human rights and a free-market system to a nasty, hostile, backward region. We can no longer allow the world's oil supply to be in the hands of despots who saw your head off if you don't follow their crackpot strain of religion. It's that simple.
        Bush talks about bringing freedom and democracy to the Iraqi people because it's true. It's in ours - and the world's - best interests to have a free, stable democracy in that otherwise nasty region, to do business with. The reason Bush never mentions the "O" word (oil), is because bleeding-hearts and Liberal whiners would saw HIS head off if he alluded to that reason for us being over there.
        All the while continuing to use oil in their daily lives. Pathetic hippocrites.
        Reply
        1 Reply
        
        0%
        Candida1 year, 2 months ago
        
        saintetienne: "The reason Bush never mentions the "O" word (oil), is because bleeding-hearts and Liberal whiners would saw HIS head off if he alluded to that reason for us being over there."
        It's not as if the whole world didn't know from day one.
        Reply
        
        0%
        gamahuche1 year, 2 months ago
        
        I hear a MUCH louder complaining whine, accompanied by cranky bitchiness, in virtually every word that you utter than I do in those whom you seem to believe you have a God-given right to upbraid and mock.
        Your oil dependency/role of government argument is specious to say the least.
        The assertion that the government is acting on the desires of the people and their need for oil is a non-starter if it doesn't also reference the capitalist imperative to maximise profits. Ergo - minimal research on alternative fuel sources, very little incentive to increase mpg and continuing encouragement of addiction to oil and gas-guzzling vehicles.
        Reply
        
        86%
        Candida1 year, 2 months ago
        
        saintetienne,
        I just love your twisted logic. You write: "When a commodity such as oil, which DRIVES every other business on the planet, falls into the hands of hostile forces who refuse to cooperate..." Falls into the hands of hostile forces? How did Iraqi oil fall into the hands of the Iraqis? By living there?
        I bet you would claim that any natural resource found within the US belongs to the US and no other country has any claim on it, no matter how badly they need it. Or do they have the right to take it if they have squandered their own resources and need it badly enough?
        Reply
        1 Reply
        
        82%
        gamahuche1 year, 2 months ago
        
        Excellent comment.
        Reply
        
        91%
        Candida1 year, 2 months ago
        
        saintetienne,
        Although you asked Neophile, I figure this is an open forum, so I'll answer your questions, even though you don't answer mines.
        No, I haven't stopped drinking water from plastic bottles because I've never started it. Bottled water is one of the most outrageous things in the civilized world. Instead of making sure that the water system provides clean water for everybody, the rich can buy their clean water and pollute the environment, while the poor can drink whatever comes out of the pipes.
        Yes, I do take public transportation to most places, and within a 3 mile radius I usually walk.
        You say: "just know that as a middle-class American, you are in the upper 15% of the world population in terms of prosperity, human rights, comfort, technology, medical care and life expectancy."
        You are right. All the more reason for not taking away whatever those who are not in the top 15% have.
        
        Reply
        
        100%
        Natureboy1 year, 2 months ago
        
        So, your theory is that because we WANT the oil and we BENEFIT from the oil, it is ok to attack other nations and take it.
        Following your logic, if I wanted your car it would be fine for me to just blow your brains out and take it.
        How is your logic anything but sociopathic?
        Reply
      - 48%
        foksipayne1 year, 2 months ago
        
        sorry neophile meant to be a pos.
        Reply
    - 80%
      jjjsuck1 year, 2 months ago
      
      Since the fall of 2006 the price at the gas pump has risen nearly $.75 per gallon. The price of crude oil has stayed just under $1.50 per gallon. I fail to see how we have secured and protected the United States oil interests.
      And before you attack me for using oil. I do use it but I also try to minimize its use. I generally fill up about once a month.
      Pricing information:
      http://www.consumerwatchdog.org/resources/Crude...
      Reply
    - 67%
      Candida1 year, 2 months ago
      
      RedSoxGirl: "It amazes me how so many complain about the United States oil interests in the world and do not realize that it is a important commodity that we must protect."
      "Protect" is the wrong word here. The correct one is "take."
      .
      "We have become a society that truly understands no forms of personal sacrifice and are completely obsessed with oneself."
      Right on!
      Reply
  - 0%
    ABANOCLA1 year, 2 months ago
    
    We have been there 4 yrs.I would think if all we wanted was Iraqs oil, we would have it by now.Wouldn't be wasting time building schools and whatever else they are doing, we would be lining up tanker after tanker and bringing the spoils of war home to the docks.I will also say, that IMHO we took out saddam for a couple of reasons, and one being that he wanted to change the currency in which oil is traded to euros I believe, and for some reason that I don't understand, that is one reason the USA has had quite cheap gas compared to that of Europe for a very long time, and I do realize a majority of europe taxes the hell outta fuel and most everything else...but that isn't the entirety of the cost variation of fuel between them and us.....anyone know why traded in dollars gave us a lower price for so long? I am curious. thnx
    Reply
    1 Reply
    - 94%
      Natureboy1 year, 2 months ago
      
      "anyone know why traded in dollars gave us a lower price for so long? I am curious."
      It kept the value of the dollar up.
      Prior to Iraq and Venezuela switching to the EURO, every major oil-producing nation used the US dollar as its medium of exchange. Consequently, you had to have US dollars to buy crude, so the demand for US dollars was high. If more oil producing nations switch to the Euro, demand for the euro will escalate while demand for the dollar drops, resulting in the value of the dollar against the euro and other currencies degrading.
      
      Reply
  - 0%
    jrmunro1 year, 2 months ago
    
    saint
    In order to satiate YOUR appetite for oil and oil-based products, the United States needs to protect its interests in the Middle East. And a large part of that protection means stabilizing and maintaining a presence in Iraq, since their volatile and incompetent leadership over the last 30 years can't seem to do it on their own.
    The oil in Iraq belongs to them not the us. Why can`t you get that through your f`n skull.
    Reply
92%
OnlyTheTruth1 year, 2 months ago

Time to give them a time certain for the ARI to take over. Since they out-number the dead-enders 100-to-1 they should have no problem.
Reply
67%
joeblowe1 year, 2 months ago

If Iraq invites us to leave, then we will absolutely be in violation of our own Constitution. Since we WON the war against Iraq, we don't really have any Congressional authority to be there now, but it can at least be argued that we are there assisting the new government at their request. If that goes away, we had better go away too.
Reply
2 Replies
- 0%
  ABANOCLA1 year, 2 months ago
  
  pretty sure we are required to rebuild what was destroyed with "shock and awe" despite whether we are wanted there or not.
  Reply
  1 Reply
  - 0%
    Candida1 year, 2 months ago
    
    They may one day say that they rather rebuild it themselves.
    Reply
0%
HMMace1 year, 2 months ago

The Iraqis are making slow progress because there are more iraqis working against us than with us. We should leave that country immediately..Then we should--NEVER RE ELECT ANY POLITICIN--EVER..
Reply
92%
foksipayne1 year, 2 months ago

First their people are telling us to leave, and now the higher ups are telling us to leave. We need, now, to leave. If that makes their situation worse then it's on them not us. As for the slow progress, that is on us because we are still there.
Reply
100%
amerettoice1 year, 2 months ago

well, history shows, they cannot govern themselves, they cannot agree on anything, they constantly batle among the different groups, there is no unity in the nation..they have always been lead by the nose (husssien). so now we step in, take the booger out of their nose, dress 'em up, teach then to stand, show them how to walk in the big world, let them take the first steps alone and sure they are going to be slow.. they lack confidence... and untill they achieve that it will be a slow painfull process...also all the while they are trying to walk there are those snakes in the grass that are biting at their feet.... they must learn not to step around the snakes but to stomp on their heads and kill the snakes, then take another step... pray for these misguided people... its their only hope
Reply
4 Replies
- 100%
  foksipayne1 year, 2 months ago
  
  Very well stated.
  Reply
- 100%
  rimbaud1 year, 2 months ago
  
  http://www.ericblumrich.com/thanks.html
  Reply
- 0%
  RedstateLib1 year, 2 months ago
  
  "well, history shows, they cannot govern themselves, they cannot agree on anything, they constantly batle among the different groups..."
  Yes yes it was the same thing after the French helped liberate us from the despot King George. Thank God, they kept soldiers here to help us form a government and learn how to stand on our own.
  Reply
- 100%
  Daylight1 year, 2 months ago
  
  amerettoice
  well, history shows, they cannot govern themselves, they cannot agree on anything, they constantly batle among the different groups, there is no unity in the nation..they have always been lead by the nose (husssien).
  No, its not true, they ruled the world for thousand years including part of Europe, without them you have no civilization, educate yourself. Don't speak through your hat.
  Reply
0%
PilotSmall1 year, 2 months ago

There is no point is the Iraquis meeting our bench marks since we do nothing about it except set more unatainable bench marks!
Reply
100%
bongy3371 year, 2 months ago

Here is YOUR tax dollars being spent wisely in Iraq. We sure do love our soldiers,
don't we, Mr Bush et al...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cJlJudDtVE
Bring my sons and daughters home NOW!!!!!
Reply
3 Replies
- 100%
  foksipayne1 year, 2 months ago
  
  I only watched the first 2 minutes.
  Up to where soldiers must have someone who's making $99/bag doing laundry. Wish I could make that much doing laundry HERE.The guy just wanted to do his own laundry so he'd know it's done right.
  Reply
- 67%
  ciera-marie1 year, 2 months ago
  
  bongy337:
  Thank you for posting this link. It's obvious that you are not learning a job skill in the military anymore. Our military is now privatized.
  Reply
  1 Reply
  - 100%
    ciera-marie1 year, 2 months ago
    
    bongy337: I didn't mean you personally.
    Reply
78%
Shirtless1 year, 2 months ago

Sectarian violence has not ended? Well, of course not. As long as there is at least one Sunni and one Shiite still breathing, there will always be sectarian violence.
Reply
80%
Reignman1 year, 2 months ago

Ahh heres a thought for you all to ponder.. Ready for this... WE ARE NOT LEAVING IRAQ ANYTIME SOON!!! What part of that concept is so hard for you all to grasp.. We are not leaving til that country is secure.. GET IT THRU YOUR THICK DENSE LIBERAL HEADS!!! Its all your rhetoric that is irelevant at this point.. BTW... Bother to here about President Bush's trip to ALBANIA!!! Wont find that piece on this NUTSCAPE!!! Here is another thought for you loonies to ponder... Rudy Guilianni 08!!! btw... I got a quote for you all in here... " Every conservative is a liberal that has been mugged by Reality"... Ponder that one..
Reply
9 Replies
- 60%
  Ratskii1 year, 2 months ago
  
  And every liberal is a conservative that's been beat up by reality.
  Reply
- 82%
  ABANOCLA1 year, 2 months ago
  
  Here is what Hillary Clinton says about how long our troops will be there, thru her second term as president, 10 years more, she is in fantasy land about her getting 2 terms,or 1 for that matter, but maybe not the on the other....wasn't she one of the "bring our troops home" folks a month or so ago?
  http://www.netscape.com/viewstory/2007/06/12/se...
  Reply
- 100%
  Candida1 year, 2 months ago
  
  Reignman: "Bother to here about President Bush's trip to ALBANIA!!! Wont find that piece on this NUTSCAPE!!!"
  Here it is:
  http://www.netscape.com/viewstory/2007/06/10/bu...
  Reply
  4 Replies
  - 0%
    foksipayne1 year, 2 months ago
    
    Yep, found that one before this one, and still have my doubts about the whole thing.
    Reply
    3 Replies
    - 86%
      RedstateLib1 year, 2 months ago
      
      Yep, the most popular names in grade school in Albainia today, Bill and Hillary. They love the United States and our Presidents. Doesn't matter about their politics, they just love America.
      Reply
      1 Reply
      - 0%
        foksipayne1 year, 2 months ago
        
        Kinda how we took this land, pushed out Native Americans, set up gov't and began telling them how to live, Now were helping another group do the same...
        Will we never learn?
        Reply
    - 0%
      foksipayne1 year, 2 months ago
      
      BTW I just realized that I accidentally gave reign a pos.
      Reply
- 71%
  Candida1 year, 2 months ago
  
  Reignman: "WE ARE NOT LEAVING IRAQ ANYTIME SOON!!!"
  Not even if the Iraqi Government asks nicely and says pretty please?
  Reply
- 92%
  RoyHobbs1 year, 2 months ago
  
  A thought to ponder...Will Reignman be going to Iraq anytime soon?
  Reply
83%
bongy3371 year, 2 months ago

Every conservative have been proven to be hypocritical homosexual pedophiles.
Check your facts!
Reply
1 Reply
- 71%
  saintetienne1 year, 2 months ago
  
  bongy,
  Do you ever click your crack pipe several times, thinking it's your computer mouse?
  Reply
71%
Ratskii1 year, 2 months ago

Saintetienne, I'm curious. I gather you were over there as a soldier, correct? If an armed invader came up to you (rifle in hand) and asked you if you supported him being there, wouldn't you be inclined to say, "Oh, sure man, we really like you guys being here."? I suspect your view of the situation is more limited than you imagine.
Reply
4 Replies
- 0%
  Candida1 year, 2 months ago
  
  Only those who have lived under occupation know what living under occupations really means.
  Reply
  3 Replies
  - 0%
    Candida1 year, 2 months ago
    
    On the other hand, you seem to have a pretty good grasp Ratskii, for someone having been born in the US.
    Reply
    2 Replies
    - 0%
      Ratskii1 year, 2 months ago
      
      It's just a matter of putting yourself in someone elses place, even if only mentally.
      Reply
      1 Reply
      - 82%
        Candida1 year, 2 months ago
        
        I wish more people had the ability or, more likely, the will to do that.
        Reply
0%
bongy3371 year, 2 months ago

Sorry, your mother and wife are already smoking the crack and meth. They just got through doing your boyfriends at the crack house!
Reply
100%
ABANOCLA1 year, 2 months ago

That comeback certainly had little "shock and awe" value but then again most things looking back to the 5th grade didn't either....enjoy your summer bongy and study up for the 6th grade in the fall:)
Reply
100%
aniokly1 year, 2 months ago

I believe the people who have been there in Iraq, and I believe the letters I get from my nephews over there, over a bunch of sore heads that cannot wait for the peace dividend the Democrats will pay for their votes with, sorry. No money for you this year. We are doing a good job, and we are winning the people over. The young especially, and they will be the leaders of tomorrow.
Reply
0%
bongy3371 year, 2 months ago

don't dish it if you can't take it! Sorry my 6th grade teacher
refused your advances!
Reply
100%
WCFIELDS1 year, 2 months ago

Divide the G.D. Place in thirds and get out.
Reply
2 Replies
- 0%
  foksipayne1 year, 2 months ago
  
  Now that is what I have been saying too. Why haven't these guys who make all our decisions, thought of that? All they have to do is listen to what the people want.
  Reply
  1 Reply
  - HanymanComment removed: User banned.
icandoComment removed: User banned.