9 Die As Tornado Levels Kansas Town »
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Most of this southwest Kansas town was destroyed by a tornado, part of a violent storm system blamed for at least nine deaths, officials said Saturday amid warnings of more severe weather.
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Justice4All1 year, 4 months ago
I used to live near Greensburg. You can be sure that the people who live there will be helping each other to get their lives back in order.
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jaern1 year, 4 months ago
No, but we'll more than likely blame (deservedly) him for this next eff up!
http://www.fema.gov/news/newsrelease.fema?id=36030
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chiefss1 year, 4 months ago
9 people die in a tornado and you guys go nuts. It's a blip on the radar screen. That many people die every hour in car wrecks, 50,000 a year. The way you are whining we should ban automobiles. Plane crashes take thousands every year. 122 just bought it in an airplane crash in Africa. Where are you whiners for that one?
Devastaing?? Hardly. The Feds will move in, pass out free money to everyone including some that weren't even there and life will go on. 9 people? Sad but hardly devastating.About the only ones directly concerned are the immediate family.
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tallen7220001 year, 3 months ago
what a chickenshit post. the people who did not die lost everything they own houses, jobs, personal belongings and loved ones EVERYTHING.. and here you sit in your comfortable home telling them that they are nothing. If you cant show at least some compassion then be quiet at sit at home like nothing is wrong. but leave these people alone, their lives have been devestated.
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ryan6011 year, 4 months ago
I admit, I'm not an expert on the subject, but I would guess that building a storm cellar is probably not a "small investment". I could imagine that, since a storm cellar involves digging earth, that it could be more expensive then, say, adding a floor to your house (which is also ridiculously expensive). It could be hard for people in a rural community like Greensburg, who probably don't have much disposable income, to afford it.
Although, again, I'm just guessing.
I sincerely hope these folks get what they need to get their lives back on track.
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jms40331 year, 4 months ago
And maybe some extra to put in some storm cellars. If the government can give money to some other programs that I will not bother to mention, they sure should be able to give some to these people. Maybe in addition to the disaster relief fund, there should be a disaster prevention fund.
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Justice4All1 year, 4 months ago
Most homes in Kansas have basements that are used as storm cellars. And since people help each other those without a basement can find a neighbor who will let them in.
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cptnkrk1 year, 4 months ago
I lived in the Greensburg area for six years. Most homes have storm shelters and most businesses as well. My parents were staying in the J-hawk motel that night and the motel staff got everyone in the shelter.
Shelters are hard work to build but not that expensive an investment. I helped dig several while I lived there and apart from some blisters and sunburn it was just time intensive.
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Tigra1 year, 4 months ago
I always sympathize with those who suffer natural disasters and loss of life. But, at the same time, those who knowingly live in regions KNOWN for natural disasters put themselves in harms way unnecessarily. Kansas is tornado country, known for that since the 1800's, it doesnt seem to be letting up, and man cannot battle mother nature & win. So best possible solution to avoid tragedies like this? move!
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Tigra1 year, 4 months ago
I thought about what I said and I along with many other biologists in the US think the same. Disaster areas prone to tornadoes, landslides,violent storms/hurricanes,flooding, volcanic eruptions should not be inhabited. There's a difference between spuratic natural occurences and ones that occur ANNUALLY..as in Kansas. Sounds harsh, but it's the truth. How many people have to die before people rethink where they decide to set up a home?
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david_nwpa1 year, 4 months ago
Many people disagree with Tigra on this issue, but I think the idea is valid. Tornadoes are known to strike Kansas, Oklahoma, and Texas every year, sometimes with deadly consequences. People should beware living next to flood prone areas along the Mississippi River (or any large river). People living along the eastern seaboard should beware of oncoming hurricanes from June through November. Those living in the northeast US and the upper plains should be concerned about blizzards every winter.
Having wiped out a majority of our nation as a "safe place" to live, where would you suggest we move? How about this...let the entire nation...all 300 million people move to Pittsburgh, PA. Not really a doable solution.
Accept that some places are prone to disaster and be prepared when it strikes.
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ksureed1 year, 4 months ago
I have lived in Kansas for 44 years and have seen two tornadoes. Greensburg has had 25 tornadoes in and around it since 1950. Death toll zero. This storm had 205 mph winds. It wiped out a community of 1500 and killed 7 and you are worried about living in this region. Homes don't get destroyed every year because of a tornado. It's not like Florida and the Gulf Coast where hurricanes destroy 2 year old homes every other year. Talk about needing to live somewhere else.
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scrudup21 year, 4 months ago
The devestation is heartwrenching and my thoughts and prayers are with the everyone picking up the pieces.
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david_nwpa1 year, 4 months ago
What about spikecwc's comment earlier in this thread? That was apolitical??
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ecotourusa1 year, 4 months ago
mamasan...
you are right on!
I'm sidestepping the issue a little here, but:
In Mexico, there is a man who owns Mex tel (I think that's the name.)
he is the 3rd or 4th wealthiest man in the world. Yet, when hurricane Wilma hit the area near Cozumel, he wasn't pulling out his wallet either.
In fact, he made a public statement and told everyone not to expect him to be philonthropic like william gates, etc.
imagine if he gave just 3 billion back to his country, maybe we would not be impacted by the invasion of illegals coming across our borders on a daily basis.
his assets go way beyond 10 billion by the way.
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ecotourusa1 year, 4 months ago
i only wish that no one goes there and takes what little these desperate people may be left with.
they have forced them out of their homes for clean up purposes.
I would not stand for that! I dont care if I pitched a tent. i am certain there is jewelry, money, etc to be obsconded!
this stuff happens...i've experienced it!
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questionseverything1 year, 4 months ago
i was shocked to hear the feds were forcing peops to leave,i too would want to stay and guard what i had left,i guess the illusion that we live in a free country is harder and harder to maintain
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ecotourusa1 year, 4 months ago
the country is full of good and gracious folk...it just takes one bad apple though. when wilma hit the south florida area, you just could not imagine the mayhem/crime.
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robis2tall1 year, 4 months ago
Libstellfibs? Wow what a nice American name you use!
So who does deserve a natural disaster?
You ought to be more honest-If libs tell fibs-then what do you call the GOP promises to capture Osama bin Laden, free Iraq from terror, rebuild the Gulf Coast & New York after 09-11-01 and Katrina? Perhaps a stretch of the truth? And what about all the WMD in Iraq that has now cost over 3500 Americans their lives and left Iraq in total civil war?
Ok-enough.
What are you going to tell us about how we should band together as a nation united-and actually work together and help each other VS just insult each other-for which I apologize for-its just seeing stupid names like your Libsfibs one that set me off.If Americans were not so self centered lazy fools we would all work for a common good
instead of what we are doing today!
If we work together America can shine again.
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nikkibabe1 year, 4 months ago
Dateline 5/3/2007:
The damage was caused by US airforce jets bombing the place by mistake that the place was used by 'suspected' terrorists about to attack America. US military is investigating.
Dateline 5/10/07:
US military has concluded that the damage was justified.
Dateline 5/17/07:
US military is offering $100 per family as compensation for the damage sustained to their house and other personal effects.
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news_hound1 year, 4 months ago
May God bless this community and give them strength to over come this devestation. You are all in my thoughts and prayers.
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walden31 year, 4 months ago
"God knows they won't help themselves."
that's why we are commanded to help those less fortunate.
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ryan6011 year, 4 months ago
"There is never enough help for the poor, and the pitiful, and God knows they won't help themselves."
That is one of the most heartless, mean-spirited, and simply wrong statements that I have seen you post aniokly, in a long sordid history of heartless, mean-spirited, and wrong statements.
You should be ashamed of yourself. walden3 has you pegged perfectly; that attitude is very un-Christian.
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Justice4All1 year, 4 months ago
They will survive because they know how to help each other.
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ksureed1 year, 4 months ago
Greensburg will rebuild quickly. There is more help than they can handle already. 2 years ago, we had a very small tornado where I live. Damaged the elevator, theatre, and many houses. Nothing terribly serious. MANY trees down. The next day we had neighboring townspeople here to help. We had groups of teenagers walking around town helping move tree limbs and loading debris. After we cleaned up our yard, we drove around town and stopped where the biggest pile was, helped and moved on. This is Kansas and this is where people actually care about each other. Make any comments you want about "us dumm farmers", but I wouldn't want to live anywhere else.
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questionseverything1 year, 4 months ago
greensburg will be rebuilt quickly UNLESS the ins industry screws them over like they did the peops of the gulf coast...that will be the biggest dif
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chiefss1 year, 4 months ago
We have people up here in Washington that got Federal money after Katrina. However, they never lived anywhere NEAR the Hurricane area
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endtyranny1 year, 4 months ago
A terrible tragedy, the victims deserve all our best wishes and prayers.
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david_nwpa1 year, 4 months ago
I am a yearbook adviser for a high school in PA. I am proposing on Monday that for every yearbook we sell between now and the end of the school year, that our yearbook club will donate $10 to disaster relief for the people of Greensburg, KS and Sweetwater, OK. In both cities, the students have lost their schools and homes. We want to help them recover. If anyone is interested, please send me a private message.
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chiefss1 year, 4 months ago
And the amount of money you collect wouldn't build an outhouse. Don't worry about money, the Feds will throw it at them like it was candy. Look at Katrina. People that weren't even there collected thousands of dollars. Remember the $2000 dollar cradit cards Uncle Sam handed out?
Save your money.
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david_nwpa1 year, 4 months ago
Chiefss,
Heaven help you if a tornado should strike your town. I would not bother spitting on you if one should. After all, I would not want to "waste my spit."
If the students want to offer their money to even one family to make a difference, let them. If every student in the country chipped in and followed our example, millions would make it to Kansas faster than the government trucks. As for Katrina victims, the outpouring from private sources far outpaced arrival in Louisiana compared to GW's fly over. You're doing a heckuva job, chiefss.
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nikkibabe1 year, 4 months ago
If the people writing here about sympathy, caring and helping just stop for a moment and think of all those whose lives have been destroyed and devastated by war mongers, the world would be a much better place under GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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chiefss1 year, 4 months ago
You seem to forget our military is all VOLUNTEER. No one made us do it. Many of the Soldiers there now enlisted long after 911 and they are STILL enlisting and reenlisting.We don't need you worrying about us.
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robis2tall1 year, 4 months ago
Its not going to be another Katrina? Perhaps the folks in this area will now see President Bush firsthand as he flies over the area,drops in on his way to a fundraiser and kisses a baby,and tells everyone how moved he is that he just lost a few votes.Or maybe he will send in a few of the trailers from the Gulf Coast,after tossing out the residents there who still have no power,no phones etc over 2.5 years after Katrina,and after pledging to rebuild their homes and cities.
The facts are clear that we are facing a humanitarian crisis here from natural causes.
I do hope that President Bush does really help these folks.I guess after seeing him BS so many times to us about everything from rebuilding New York,Louisiana,Mississippi and every other area destroyed by floods,hurricanes,etc..that I have lost faith in him.
Politics aside-an F5 tornado is akin to an atom bomb in destructive capability.
As you rebuild,please add tornado shelters, large enough to use a temporary shelters.
Rob
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chiefss1 year, 4 months ago
Yes sir, an F-5 tornado is like an atomic bomb. I'd be willing to bet that the people of Nagasaki and Hiroshima would have rather have had the tornado than the Bomb given the choice. Must be a new bomb I haven't heard about that only kills nine people. What a great idea, we can bottle tornados and we can carry them in Trident submarines. Much cheaper than a hydrogen bomb.
Have you ever seen the damage done by the two very small atomic bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki?? That was DEVASTATION. A tornado is nothing. It takes an atomic bomb to set off a hydrogen bomb. There is NO comparison.
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