Two Secret Service officers injured at White House »
Posted by: TechnologyExpert 1 year, 4 months agoTwo Secret Service officers were injured on Tuesday after a gun held by another Secret Service officer accidentally fired inside the White House gate, according to a spokesman, Darrin Blackford. Their injuries are non-life threatening, the spokesman said.
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gamahuche1 year, 4 months ago
Since they're going to live I hope its not disrespectful to laugh at the comic side of it.
I did, needed to after yesterday's appalling ordeal.
On the serious side, since we are apparently talking about security professionals, this story seems to demonstrate conclusively, whatever claims are made to the contrary, that guns can NEVER safe enough.
I'll be interested [for once] in what kind of home-spun apologia we'll hear from the cold-dead-fingers brigade..
[IN CASE anyone doesn't know it fav. MT bumpersticker: "I will give up my gun when they pry my cold dead fingers from around it."]
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PsychoHosebeast1 year, 4 months ago
"whatever claims are made to the contrary, that guns can NEVER safe enough."
Particularly in the hands of an idiot.
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patsherre1 year, 4 months ago
Obaku, you have got to be kidding. You cannnot be that stupid to think that every law enforcement officer is a thug just because they work for government., You are one of those individuals who probably hate the police and other authority figures until the moment you need them to pull your Ass out of the fix you put it in due to your stupidity. You need not respond, it will only be the same rhetoric you push on a daily basis.
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eviln3d1 year, 4 months ago
"law enforcement officer", you've been watching to many old TV shows. Todays "law enforcement officer" doesn't enforce the law they assess random taxes through traffic tickets and write up claim forms for people to use to collect insurance after they've been robbed.
Law enforcement died years ago, sometime around the time the police stopped putting "to protect and serve" on their cars.
No one in his right mind would ever expect any meaningful protection from a "law enforcement officer". I protect myself with a fully loaded gun and am much safer than anyone that is dumb enought to believe that a "law enforcement officer" is going to protect them.
I suggest you go watch some Katrina coverage for a while you'll see those marvelous "law enforcement officers" as they ignore crimes and in some case swipe alittle stuff for themselves.
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Obaku1 year, 4 months ago
1)I would never, ever expect a city police force, as a whole, or any individual officer, to do anything. County sherriff, completely different story.
2)Any organization that is largely occupied with collecting money from the population at large at gunpoint is a group of thugs.
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eviln3d1 year, 4 months ago
I can tell you the armed forces has gotten pretty pathetic. I've met guys that's handgun training consisted of being given 45's that were converted into 22. cal and then only being allowed to shoot one full clip. They weren't expected to be in a combat role so the military thought it was saving money. I can't imagine the secret service could be more pathetic than that.
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KSUmarksman1 year, 4 months ago
they may be issued Glocks now (I am not up to date on USSS armaments) which don't have an external safety. So you have to be especially careful not to put pressure on the trigger.
I doubt I will ever own one, primarily for that reason.
IIRC they also require trigger pressure to disasemble, which is why a DEA agent shot himself while talking about gun safety in a classroom (he accidentally re-chambered a round after clearing the gun and then tried to take it apart: BANG!)
Quite amateurish, but I understand that it happens a lot when one is comfortable enough with guns not to be wary of them, but not experienced enough to the point that safety is a reflex action.
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ghengisghan1 year, 4 months ago
As long as you dont put your finger on the trigger till ready to engage target nothing happens. If you do put your finger on the trigger it will fire...as INTENDED. Ive carried a glock 23 for almost 18 years daily and have yet to have an unintentional discharge. Some Delta force and SF units never safety theyre weapons (M-4 and MP5's) unless theyre on aircraft.
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STILLWATER001 year, 4 months ago
This is the first :LOL yEA watch bush promote with a purple heart!Again "JOB WELL DONE" BROWNING
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AussieMick1 year, 4 months ago
This reminds me of a news story I read a few years ago. Australian Federal Police raided an apartment in Sydney at two am, and in their usual fashion, smashed the door in (unannounced) with a sledge hammer. Apart from getting the wrong address the guy with the shotgun behind the one with the sledge hammer tripped and shot him in the arse (that's ass to you). I found this most amusing since my apartment was also raided by them earlier (by mistake of course!) luckily I wasn't at home at the time, but their "mistake" cost me $400 for a new door!!
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walden31 year, 4 months ago
guns don't fire "accidentally." modern firearms won't even fire when dropped with a round in the chamber. someone was being stupid and did something stupid. i expect better from the secret service.
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eviln3d1 year, 4 months ago
I'm sure their guns didn't malfunction. It was a malfunctioning agent. You could sit any gun they had on a table for a million years and it wouldn't fire by itself. Some dumb Barney Fife was doing something pretty stupid. Even the most basic training would start with "don't put your finger on the trigger unless your ready to fire".
I am a bit perplexed as to how one bullet causes damage to one agents face and anothers leg.... where exactly was the one agents head... and if it was that close to the other agents leg was one agent playing Monica Lewinsky?
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bonaroo1 year, 4 months ago
I'm with you on this one. There is more to this than meets the eye. Scull and Bones vs ? Maybe this was one of those "majic" bullets that Oswald used. A gun going off by accident once is embarassing but understandable, but going off twice and hitting two different people is suspicious at least.
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gardner8131 year, 4 months ago
I agree with the Cable Guy on the Blue color show. If guns kill people than my pen or pencil must do all the bad spelling that happens when I write something. If someone wants to kill other people bad enough that is what they are going to do. Look at what is happening in Irac, the so called (Pieceful Religlion of Islum) Suscide bomer are killing there own people and not with guns.
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Disulfate1 year, 4 months ago
If the agent's finger was on the trigger, then it was not
an accident. Mark it up to stupidity.
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Webreader1 year, 4 months ago
How could a service handgun cause "shrapnel" injuries unless the barrel was plugged and then the round in the chamber discharged?
I do recall a story that Dwight Eisenhower, (bless him) President '52-'60 and Supreme Commander of European Theater during WWII and 5 star Army General was, when President, on a hunting trip and was seen to be leaning on his shotgun with the barrels leaning on his instep. I'm glad he didn't actually shoot himself in the foot! Is there something about professionsl gun users being too overconfident and not respectful enough of these firearms?
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saneman1 year, 4 months ago
I think the security person, a.k.a. Jethro Bodine, put his finger in the end of the barrel and tried to fire the gun. Either that Jethro was experimenting with a new type of silencer. He placed the barrel of the gun in a pop can and discharged the gun
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ghengisghan1 year, 4 months ago
I suspect , and thats all we can do since no incident report will be released, that the wound to the leg is from the bullet and the 'shrapnel' wound was caused by the empty casing being discharged into the face.Im guessing the weapon was an MP5 (MACHINEGUN) and not a sidearm. iM SURE THE AGENT IS BEYOND EMBARASSED.My kids know the three rules of firearms and this agent violated atleast 2 of them.
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aceofspades11 year, 4 months ago
Looks like politicians bodyguards are their own worst enemies - Gov Corzine almost gets killed by his driving at 91 mph in a SUV on a lousy road. & oh yeah the Gov didnt have a seatbelt on & the driver was a state trooper-
Now some schmuck in the WhiteHouse guard booth almost blows away 2 other guards - who has to worry about terrorists?
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