Rosie O'Donnell 9/11 Conspiracy Comments: Popular Mechanics Responds »
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For those interested in what physicist and demolition experts have said regarding WTC 7's collapse, as detailed in our book Debunking 9/11 Myths, Popular Mechanics offers these notes:
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SusanParrish1 year, 5 months ago
"Tower 7 housed the city's emergency command center, so there were a number of fuel tanks located throughout the building-including two 6000-gal. tanks in the basement that fed some generators in the building by pressurized lines. "Our working hypothesis is that this pressurized line was supplying fuel [to the fire] for a long period of time," according to Sunder. Steel melts at about 2,750 degrees Fahrenheit-but it loses strength at temperatures as low as 400 F. When temperatures break 1000 degrees F, steel loses nearly 50 percent of its strength. It is unknown what temperatures were reached inside WTC7, but fires in the building raged for seven hours before the collapse."
'Nuff said.
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SouthernBoy1 year, 5 months ago
Rosie clearly knows nothing about how fire affects steel buildings. Steel structures are often the quickest to collapse in a fire, quicker even than wooden structures. Many firefighters have died in steel framed buildings because the building collapsed before it was expected to.
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fretslinger581 year, 5 months ago
Very true. Rosies' comments had me feeling embarassed "for her" LOL
For 25 years I've been in the fire protection industry, and after seeing numerous steel beams twisted like pretzels after a fire, it's quite obvious what heat can do to steel.
Many older buildings with wood timber beams will actually stay structurally intact much longer in fire conditions because the
steel beams lose their integrity of strength much quicker.
"the first time in history that fire has melted steel"...LOL
I wonder how many fire fighters have left Rosie a voicemail! LOL
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911veritas1 year, 5 months ago
Rosie may not be an expert... Are you ?
These are...
The editor (Bill Manning) of Fire Engineering Magazine said,
"Fire Engineering has good reason to believe that the "official investigation" blessed by FEMA and run by the American Society of Civil Engineers is a half-baked farce that may already have been commandeered by political forces whose primary interests, to put it mildly, lie far afield of full disclosure."
F.E. Jan 2002 Edition Link :
http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:eLleB9EV2v...
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Also, the steel and floor trusses were tested far in excess of the reported temperatures and burn times, they performed so well that NIST had to resort to a "black box" computer model to get their desired results.
Watch NIST & FEMA WTC Report Flaws Exposed
Video Link : http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7465849...
Dare you...
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injest1 year, 4 months ago
"Our working hypothesis..."
Okay let's see.
An aircraft crashes into the building complex, fires are raging all over the place.
WTC 7,a number of fuel tanks located throughout the building-including two 6000-gal.Tanks because it is the city's emergency command center.(For most people with an IQ above 12 who don't drink out of a toilet, a building on fire, with 12000 gal of fuel is an OH Sh*T situation)
The ""Our working hypothesis.is that this pressurized line was supplying fuel [to the fire] for a long period of time,"
That's 1, I just thought of another. Suppose the generator weren't running, and the fuel was in pipes, that are routed all through the building with valves closed at all ends, fire raging on the pipes, sooner or later the fuel is going to heat up, expand and most likely burst the pipes now you have fuel spraying into a building that is all ready on fire.
Wouldn't that be a huge frging bomb?
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white-pawn1 year, 4 months ago
The Popular Mechanics book has been largely de-bunked itself.
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pajagre1 year, 4 months ago
Oh for the love of, stop giving Rosie a hard time just cuz she munches rugs. She is not the first person to remark about this. From the evidence I have seen from both sides, I believe it was planned. It was just too neat, regardless of how hot the frikin fires were.
This current (Bush) administration has done nothing but lie. Tired of it. The most self centered bunch of yo yos I have aver seen. I for one am glad these Republicans are OUIT OF THERE!
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SusanParrish1 year, 5 months ago
As somewhat of a "News and Information" purveyor, I feel Rosie has a responsibility to do a little research before she goes off on a tirade like this most recent one. Did she read a single article explaining why the tower couldn't have been demo-ed? Did she look into the physics of steel at all? Did she phone any of these Harvard or Yale experts she demanded owed answers, and ask them a few simple questions? Did she look online, or purchase and read any of the "Debunking 9/11 Myths" books and articles? There is no excuse for her being so uneducated on the subject. It's one thing to spout that kind of stuff in a stand-up routine, it's another to present it in the forum she did.
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GoldRush1 year, 5 months ago
Based on Rosie's comments, it was clear her comments and consequently her research were extracted from her broad backside! There was no substance to any of Rosie's comments, just more of her anger. Rosie is dangerously self-destructive. I hope she has a least one friend that will help her through her depression and self hatred.
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911veritas1 year, 5 months ago
If you hold the 9/11 Commission and FEMA / NIST in such high regard, then please explain the following points...
Like the complete omission of WTC7 from the 9/11 Commission Report, here's a few other bits to chew on... and there are many more.
1) FEMA, then NIST in more than 5 years have failed to give an official explanation for WTC7's 47 storey complete collapse into it's own footprint in 6.5 seconds, not damaging buildings only a few feet away (akin to aims of controlled demolition).
2) NIST's failure to report has resulted in them having to outsource to a third party (ARA) to concoct a reason for it's collapse, only took them 5 years to conclude that they were unable to... such expertise.
3) If it was common knowledge that WTC7 had to collapse (reported collapsed by the BBC 20 mins before it did), then why were members of the NYPD (Craig Bartmer and his saviors) nearly crushed when it did...
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911veritas1 year, 5 months ago
Oh and the fact that the WTC7 fires started on the 12th floor east edge, nowhere near any fuel storage (source FEMA).
Oh what was on the 12th floor, it was the Securities and Exchange Commission... hmmmm
You don't mention the Securities and Exchange Commission's lost evidence (including Enron fraud evidence), resulting in the SEC spokesperson in the NY Post on 12-Sep-2001 stating...
"it's devastating, they'll have to scrap many cases, and start from scratch on others"
I highly recommend that anyone interested in real issues watch "WTC7 Smoking Gun"
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Tcaros1 year, 5 months ago
Rosie should be commended for speaking out. Most Americans are afraid to speak out and ask questions, whether they have supporting evidence is not determined. What course is our country on when people are afraid to speak their mind?
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Tcaros1 year, 5 months ago
Are you paying attention to what is around you?
People are being pushed out of the public square and bullied to keep quiet. This is worse than Watergate because there is a broad effort to quiet people from asking questions. The media is pressured to keep quiet. Do you recall the New York times and the threats to throw reporters in jail?
You must be living in a suburban shell where everything is alright as long as you take those kids to soccer and keep you mouth closed.
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not2needy1 year, 5 months ago
Tcaros, I am a democrat, very liberal!! But Rosie is not the best person to sell our politics on the market. She is too 'in your face'. She is not the person i would want to advocate the way i feel about my politics, i have more class than that. I want a class act to get out there and expose the Bush administration, and i don't think that person is Rosie. Not many people really even take her seriously.
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ConquerorWyrm1 year, 4 months ago
I agree...
Put Rosie into the ring if you want a circus act...let her go up against any of the clowns on the other side (I mean those FauxNews talking heads who thrive on intollerance, self-righteousness and cherry-picked 'truths') and let's all grab some popcorn and watch the show.
But for substance?
Well, after the clowns and elephants have amused the masses with their stupid and pathetic antics (I shine this light on both 'sides'), Rosie, along with her contemporaries in infotainment (Hannity, O'Reilly, Weiner Savage, Coulter, Moore, Beck...you get the picture) matter for naught.
That people like to bundle their skivvies so tightly because of what such blowhards say is also telling, but not in a good way, about the simple masses.
Heck, most leave the arena as soon as that stupid side-show eases up and fail to miss the show entire...but hey, Truth and Inquiry ain't that great a headliners anyway
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ONEMEMPHISDUDE1 year, 4 months ago
Rosie can continue to speak out. I actually enjoy seeing her make a fool of herself in an obvious desparate attempt to increase ratings for that "hen party" they call The View.
If you'll notice, about twice a week, Ms. O'Donnell generates press by issuing a non-sensical statement about something totally foreign to her field...(comedy?) As Dean Winter explained to John Belushi in the movie ANIMAL HOUSE: "..Son, It's ashamed to go through life Fat and Stupid!"
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injest1 year, 4 months ago
Rosie should be commended for speaking out. Most Americans are afraid to speak out
Your joking right? If not then that's the dumbest thing I'v read all day. Have you heard of message boards like the one your on today? How bout blogs?
Please we have all heard this before and have made our judgments. We are not laughing with you we are laugh at you.
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bonsai1 year, 5 months ago
How can Rosie be commended when she talks something she has no knowledge about.She lies about 911 but the worst part of it is that she believes in her own lies.What an idiot.
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GoldRush1 year, 5 months ago
Rosie appears to represent these mistruths and lies to help her show. Not Barbara Walter's show, but "her show." Based on her negative comments and perceived negative self-image, Rosie continues to show her disatisfaction in her personal appearance, her husky, manly looks and her feminine self-image regularly. Considering the frequency of these events, Rosie may be evidencing bi-polar disorder, or severe depression, warranting intervention.
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GoldRush1 year, 5 months ago
I find it incredible that an entertainer with notarity as a "jester," would be considered space for comments, after the incredulous statements she made. I suspect these latest comments are in response to some personal downturn in her relationship with her female partner. I suggest that she chooses to create these inflamatory and negative comments as a coping mechanism toward a personal desire for recognition, regardless of their substance or accuracy.
Should Barbara Walters ever decide to remove this "jester" from the show, I believe we would soon see an obituary about her suicide. The self-destructive comments, and obivious inaccuracies are demonstrating personal anger towards herself, and at an exceptionally high level! I suggest she be placed on a suicide watch soon. I hope she has some friends somewhere that can help her. She should be removed from T.V. long enough to detoxify her self-image and help her to re-enter society with greater stability.
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ConquerorWyrm1 year, 4 months ago
"...anti-bush anti-christian far left idiots."
Wow, that ruins the credibility of your post...
Let's see...
Anti-Bush...is that anything like anti-Clinton or anti-Carter? Is one required to love, fawn over and idolize Bush to be a member of your America? If Bush fails or exposes his incompetence (Katrina, 9-11, Iraq, Bin Laden hunt, Taliban in Afganistan), is it not okay, as his EMPLOYER to criticize his conduct? Or is Bush Sacred and Holy?
Anti-Christian? Get real! Are you suggesting that the Republican Party, or more specifically, the admittedly pro-fascist (corporatist) splinter branch of Neo-Cons are, with their abject worship of Mammon, the party of Christ? Ah, yes...Jesus must just loves the way children scream when white phospherous melts the flesh off their arms as our great War Leader (historic coward) drops bombs to help secure even greater resources for Mammon.
Sick logic, sir.
As for the 'left'? Does this Nation not NEED balance?
I dare you to deny that.
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